[conservlib]

OK, I have an additional idea. Israel, is a democracy, and its policy is to award the Israeli citizenship to any "JEW" who wants to reside in it, on demand. If you are a Christian, or a Muslim, you are not going to be accepted, by law! Now the same ACLU of this country will never argue that this Israeli policy is discriminatory. Actually, I don't think it is discriminatory either. The reason being is Israel wants to protect its identity as a "JEWISH" state. Accordingly, the rest of the world deal with it, and look the other way as far as pointing out the discrimination against Christians and Muslims by this Israeli law. Now why is it possible for a Jewish state to work hard to protect its identity from the infiltration of Muslims, and ALSO it is alright for a Muslim states as Saudi Arabia to protect its identity as a pure Muslim country (without one single church), and IT IS NOT ALRIGHT FOR THE USA, AND THE REST OF THE WEST TO PROTECT THEIR "CHRISTIAN" HERITAGE AGAINST THE IFILTRATION OF MUSLIMS? Please reflect on this point, and explain how the stupid liberals can defend such stupidity. The only explanation for me is that our people are happy to accept the bitch role in this American/Saudi relationship.

That can be stopped if our media, and churches will talk about this one subject 24X7 until all of us become upset not to be the BITCH to anybody.

[Fred Nerks]

I have my doubts about what you wrote about the Jewish State, don't they have around a million arab/israeli citizens and two members of the Kneset are arabs...I seem to recall that Herzl, who was instrumental in the drafting of the Israeli constitution, wrote that document along 'socialist' principles...shoot me if I'm wrong, more research required.

The argument about 'zionism' stems from the original rejection of a pure Jewish-only State...I think...but what a great idea that might have been. During correspondence with Jewish friends, the subject has often come up how much Arab votes count to certain political parties in Israel. The Left never knew a terrorist it didn't love...?

IMO the only way we can protect our Christian heritage in the West is to call islam what it is - it's not a religion, it's a CULT...and its roots are in Saudi Arabia, the original home of the parasitic, nomadic barbarians that gave it birth.

[anotherview]

Wow... a whole lot of misinformation about Israel here... As one of the resident Israeli Freepers, albeit an American-born one, allow me to make a few corrections please.

OK, I have an additional idea. Israel, is a democracy, and its policy is to award the Israeli citizenship to any "JEW" who wants to reside in it, on demand.

What does the word Jew mean? Most people don't realize the are two meanings. First, it can mean a member of the Jewish religion. Second, it is short for Judean, meaning someone from Judea, in what is now Israel. Historically it meant both a nationality and a religion.

Jews are from Israel in the way Frenchmen are from France or an Irishman is from Ireland. Yes, we have a Law of Return that allows Jews to claim Israeli citizenship. Ireland has a law that allows anyone who can prove Irish ancestry (within limits: great granparents, I think) to live in Ireland and gain Irish citizenship. Why is Israeli law any more onerous that Irish law?

If you are a Christian, or a Muslim, you are not going to be accepted, by law!

Not so. Palestinian Arabs for many years were allowed to return if doing so would reunite families. There are certainly conditions under which Christians can immigrate to Israel. I saw an article recently that showed that while our Christian population is small roughly 23,000 Christians are recent immigrants. The difference is that Christians who are not from Israel do not automatically qualify for citizenship nor are given any particlularly favorable treatment. How is this different from any other country's immigration laws? Germany and Australia, for example, restrict Jewish immigration and nobody is condemning or criticizing them.

Now the same ACLU of this country will never argue that this Israeli policy is discriminatory.

Considering they are the *American* Civil Liberties Union and concern themselves with American, not Israeli, law that would seem to be a given.

Now why is it possible for a Jewish state to work hard to protect its identity from the infiltration of Muslims

Or a European state, for that matter? The Netherlands are seriously considering such a change to immigration law. Nothing wrong with it.

and ALSO it is alright for a Muslim states as Saudi Arabia to protect its identity as a pure Muslim country

I agree, it is perfectly fine. It's their country.

IT IS NOT ALRIGHT FOR THE USA, AND THE REST OF THE WEST TO PROTECT THEIR "CHRISTIAN" HERITAGE AGAINST THE IFILTRATION OF MUSLIMS?

I think it's perfectly OK. Anti-discrimination laws apply to the citizens of a given country. American laws do not apply to Israelis nor to anyone else outside the U.S. If Islam is seen as a threat then it should be OK to exclude Muslims.

I, personally, don't think America's Muslim minority is a threat. The problem with new potential immigrants is sorting out the ones who truly want to come to the U.S. legally to enjoy the freedom and opportunity the country offers and can contribute to American society in a positive way and those who are coming for nefarious purposes. I don't know how to do that and until a foolproof method is de vised discriminating against Muslims in immigration policy during a war against radical Islam makes perfect sense.

Was it discrimination to exclude Japanese or Germans from immigrating to the U.S. during WWII?