Posted on 12/23/2004 9:49:50 AM PST by blam
This article has more detail than the one posted yesterday.
I am having a problem with the dates, 5,000 years is far to old.
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I agree. That would put it at the same time as the flood of Noah. There wouldn't be enough time to breed a new race of people and migrate to South America.
Good advice. Never, never try to eat 5,000 year old dates.
Why? They got there in ~6000 BCE, 8000 years ago.
>>That is the longest time any known ancient civilization survived, according to archaeologist Jonathan Haas of the Field, who led the expedition.
Hey, I've worked with that guy. His wife is nice. Him, welll...
If civilization got started in South America 5000 years ago, as it did in Egypt, India and China then what happened? Why did civilization advance in other parts of the world but not in South America or North America? Something does not compute.
Bull, see China.
>>Why did civilization advance in other parts of the world but not in South America or North America?
Define "advance" because in this context I really have no clue what you mean. Peru was a highly advanced society when Pizarro came along, but one of the things that happened a lot in the Andean region is that periodic enviornmental catastrophes seem to cause a collapse of various State level societies (Chimu, Moche, Huari).
The well known "El Nino" weather pattern is one example.
As it was, the Inca were pretty advanced by the time the Spanish encountered them, with an elaborate road system, record keeping system, and advanced agricultural systems.
>>That is the longest time any known ancient civilization survived
>>Bull, see China.
Well since I didn't post that quote, I have no idea why you replying to me.
I should clairify--the quote was IN the article. If you have a problem with it, take it up with Haas, not me.
The comment was a general one, not at all directed to you.
His evidence of this is what? Or is it just an educated guess since it's the way things usually turn out?
"We are seeing the emergence of centralized decision-making, government and religion out of pristine conditions," Haas said. "They were not following a pattern established by someone else. They were developing it on their own. An Andean culture was being invented in this area."
Conjecture? I know next to nothing about this site/people, but it seems to the layman this guy's making some pretty large leaps.
Nifty slide show on the "The Sacred City of Caral, Peru" from UCDavis.
FGS
"......persisted in virtually the same form for 1,200 years before they were overrun by more warlike neighbors.'
In the end it often comes down to cojones.
As far as age, who the heck knows what to believe. The great pyramid is claimed by some to be 8000 or 10000years old. You'd figure they could date these things fairly precisly.
It's just rock and limestone. How are you going to date when some random limestone was dug up, carved up, or put in place?
Neat! I love this stuff.
Did you see the History Channels Modern Marvels last night, about Galen and the study of medicine?? That was fascinating. And right before that they had some sort of "andulytch (sp) dear" that was possibly designed by Archimedes.
I am SUCH a geek. :-)
Merry Christmas Blam.
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