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To: Ernie.cal
I'm staying on topic.

I stated that I had no problem limiting marriage to two persons not related by blood.

But why would you (just you) want to prevent two consenting adults related by blood from marrying? Why just "a monopoly" (your words) of two unrelated consenting adults? What about three, four and five consenting adults. Your only repsonse is to post the concerns of others. What is your concern with limiting marriage?

The title of your thread is Same-Sex Marraige - A Threat To Whom?. So, for consenting adults related by blood that want to marry, for any number of consenting adults, related by blood or not that want to marry, I'm asking you your own question: to whom is it a threat? Why do you insist on limiting marriage to only two?

You really need to get to know former homosexuals and hear what they have to say.

642 posted on 01/09/2005 3:02:43 PM PST by scripter (Tens of thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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To: scripter
But why would you (just you) want to prevent two consenting adults related by blood from marrying? Why just "a monopoly" (your words) of two unrelated consenting adults?

Scripter, you already know the answer to this question so why do you bring it up? Obviously, there are increased risks of mental and physical disabilities in children produced from parents who are closely related by blood. Of course, nothing currently prevents closely related men and women from producing children, without anyone even knowing that the child's mother and father are related by blood.

In this discussion, I have been focusing on the "public policy" choices of the matter. In other words, I prefer to look for ways to accommodate critics of same-sex marriage so that an agreement can be reached that would permit legalization of gay marriage by a general consensus within our society.

By contrast, you apparently want to focus upon the IDEOLOGY behind public policy disputes. That is: focus on the most contentious aspects that bring out personal values or principles (often expressed in absolute, no-exceptions terms) that separate opponents in public policy debates---because as ideological arguments are made, there is dramatically less possibility of reaching consensus.

With respect to your larger question of "why limit marriage to only 2 persons?" (even if unrelated by blood), personally I have not thought about this hypothetical very much so I cannot offer you a fully-developed opinion. But given my first principles (previously stated), I might be persuaded that other types of marriages should be recognized--even if they involve 3 or more persons.

Early-on in this debate, someone posted a message asking why government should be involved at all in this question. That is actually an interesting question which might be explored.

643 posted on 01/10/2005 11:28:01 AM PST by Ernie.cal
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