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To: gidget7
You paint such a nice little picture for perversion and immoral conduct.

I haven't been painting a picture of gay perversion or immoral conduct. I have been asking questions regarding how law should apply to people in a free society and how and when government should intervene in matters of human intimacy.

Should our laws protect all of us? Including those who may not have majority approval?

It is easy to stand up and fight for something that the majority approves. Nothing is in jeopardy. No principles are tested. No good will is lost or integrity questioned.

How many of you have ever stood up to defend an unpopular cause or person--and risked community disapproval or worse? Should American law protect only non-controversial and conventional beliefs?

411 posted on 12/23/2004 3:42:40 PM PST by Ernie.cal
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To: Ernie.cal

Going to the petshop, my chameleon's lamp just broke. Yikes.


414 posted on 12/23/2004 3:50:34 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Ernie.cal
One more thing before I leave .... by requesting special treatment, homosexuals are threatening the civil rights of others – those who disagree with them.

Back later.

415 posted on 12/23/2004 3:54:21 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Ernie.cal

"How many of you have ever stood up to defend an unpopular cause or person...and risked community disapproval or worse?"
Well, I have. I was a Freedom rider, I was in many civil rights marches, I worked on many committees to assist equal pay standards for Blacks and women, and alot more. That is how things change. We didn't analyze why some people hated Blacks or thought women were stupid. We simply brought attention to the problem and worked to persuade those who were open minded until we had convinced the majority.
You seem to think that by analyzing those who oppose something you will change them. There will always be people who will never change. Rather then spend hours analyzing these people on this forum, perhaps you could go out and work to convince those who are more open. Maybe even at the disapproval of the community?


432 posted on 12/23/2004 4:35:28 PM PST by unbalanced but fair
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To: Ernie.cal
Should our laws protect all of us? Including those who may not have majority approval?


Our laws already protect all of us. Gays have the same right anyone else does. Should they receive special laws? NO

How many of you have ever stood up to defend an unpopular cause or person--and risked community disapproval or worse? Should American law protect only non-controversial and conventional beliefs?


Contrary to what you think, any one of us here would be the first, and in fact in most cases we have been the first, to stand up for someone who's true civil rights were being violated. Same sex marriage, IS NOT A CIVIL RIGHT! Neither is sex with the same sex. Not against the law, and civil rights, are two very separate things. Laws are made to bring a society together. Not separate them.
450 posted on 12/23/2004 5:34:41 PM PST by gidget7 (God Bless America, and our President George W. Bush)
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