I am not pushing an agenda Coyote. I am merely asking questions -- because I am trying to understand what, ultimately, people fear about acceptance of same-sex marriage.
I respect critics and skeptics and I listen to what they have to say. Like Judith, you apparently find it difficult to present your views without descending into demonizing people you perceive as critics. Ultimately, I think that is why Americans will eventually be ok with same-sex marriage---because we instinctively believe in fair-play and don't want mean-spirited people to control our lives. So please keep using the terminology you used in your message so that your bile can be clear for everyone to comprehend.
Ultimately, I think that is why Americans will eventually be ok with same-sex marriage---because we instinctively believe in fair-play and don't want mean-spirited people to control our lives.
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Do you think it's appropriate for queer men (of the "WE'RE QUEER, WE'RE" fame) to french-kiss in front of children in public, Ernie?
Ultimately, I think that is why Americans will eventually be ok with same-sex marriage---because we instinctively believe in fair-play and don't want mean-spirited people to control our lives.
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Do you think it's appropriate for queer men (of the "WE'RE QUEER, WE'RE *HERE*!" fame) to french-kiss in front of children in public, Ernie?
And now you know; the deterrioration of society that has already happened in countries like the Netherlands. Facts are stubborn things.
You deny there is a slippery slope but so did the lavender madia after the Supreme Court decision. It quickly went from being a push for acceptance of homosexuality among "consenting adults" to all ages including adult minor pairings because some states set same sex sodomy at 18 while heterosexual activity at a younger threshold. There was even an iccident soon after the decision where an child molestation case was dropped because the adult offender would have been within the "Romeo & Juliet" exception to the age of consent laws in that state.
So what happened to "consenting adults"?
Now another year on, we have seen an all out attack on our courts and legislatures to push through same sex marriage.
Sliding, sliding, sliding...
Do you find ANY of this to be a slope?
Then again, the left was denying there even WAS anything such as a "homosexual agenda".
"I respect critics and skeptics and I listen to what they have to say. Like Judith, you apparently find it difficult to present your views without descending into demonizing people you perceive as critics. Ultimately, I think that is why Americans will eventually be ok with same-sex marriage---because we instinctively believe in fair-play and don't want mean-spirited people to control our lives. So please keep using the terminology you used in your message so that your bile can be clear for everyone to comprehend."
I believe Ernie to be a sophisticated troll, someone who has been taking talking point classes from the left. Note how Ernie is unable to make ANY moral distinction without a qualifier.
He begins with "I am not pushing an agenda." That is either an utter lie or a sign of delusion. I don't fall for that crap anymore, Ernie is pushing an agenda as clear as day.
He follows with "I respect critics and skeptics".
No you don't Ernie, that's another lie. If you respected those of us who don't believe in buggery and lesbianism, you would have conceded at least a point or two along the way. But, you are all for promoting the gay agenda, including it's associated disease and destruction without a hint of responsibility for the problems it causes.
"Like Judith, you apparently find it difficult to present your views without descending into demonizing people you perceive as critics."
No Ernie, I demonized people who insert their penises into fecal matter and then swirl it around with sperm, bacteria and blood and call that marriage. Now if you feel demonized by associating yourself with, and promoting, boy buggerers who play with fecal matter, then may I suggest the problem is with you and not with me. Get used to feeling demonized, it is a demonic association you have made.
"because we (Americans) instinctively believe in fair-play and don't want mean-spirited people to control our lives."
Now you've stabbed deep, you've called me mean spirited, and if I gave a rat's behind what you think of me, maybe I would care. But "fair-play" doesn't mean letting soddomites control everyone elses lives because we have to give in to your sissy fits. In fact, fair play is trumped by what is right, and what is right is to not allow people who play in feces and revel in the aberrent ruin the rest of our society.
I recognize the word tricks you use, they are sophisticated tactics used by trained agitators. If fair play was all this world was about, we would have given Hitler the codes we cracked because it would only be fair to fight that way. Instead, we bombed the Germans back to the dark ages, and it was the right thing to do, though it was certainly not fair. Think about that the next time you make reference to "fair play".