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1 posted on 12/23/2004 7:40:45 AM PST by Ernie.cal
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and I am the Queen of England


2 posted on 12/23/2004 7:43:01 AM PST by rface (Ashland, Missouri - Monthly Donor / Bad Speller)
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Like divorce, same-sex "marriage" will legitimize untraditional families to the detriment of children raised in those families.


3 posted on 12/23/2004 7:43:22 AM PST by Jibaholic
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With gay marriage legal, society, and especially schools, will be continually offering the "gay lifestyle" as a valid choice. Our kids don't need that crap pushed down their throats, especially at such a young and impressionable age.


7 posted on 12/23/2004 7:47:03 AM PST by crv16
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Marriage is the legal and religious union between a man and a woman. No one is saying that homosexual/lesbians cannot live together.

It's just a definition of terms and the legal recognition associated with those terms. It's simply "not" marriage. Other legal "union" terms do apply.

As to the impact...it is clear to anyone with common sense. Our society as a whole is based upon strong nuclear families capable of raising strong, moral children capable of going forward and doing the same. And yes, according to the people who founded this nation, morality and religion was a predominant factor, to whit:

"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for the government of any other."- John Adams, Oct. 11, 1798
As we get further and further away from these foundational principlest, we impact society negatively. IMHO, no fault divorce is another destructive device as regards families and their ability to provied that essential underpinning and foundation of society.

Just my opinion.

10 posted on 12/23/2004 7:48:43 AM PST by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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Its not a matter of how it affects or hurts me. I do not want my children growing up in a society that says homosexuality is an acceptable lifestyle. Its immoral and against the teachings of the bible. Whats next? How does 3 people getting married to each other affect me or you? It doesn't. But that does not make it right.


11 posted on 12/23/2004 7:49:21 AM PST by JRochelle
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I actually agree with this. If gays want to get married, good for them, I don't care.


12 posted on 12/23/2004 7:49:43 AM PST by conserv13
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And then there are various financial aspects.

It wasn’t that long ago that companies would provide things like health coverage for their employees and it also covered their spouse and children.

That is increasingly uncommon today, in part due to being forced to provide benefits to “domestic partners” and others if you provide them for a married employee.

Now it is typical for a lot of companies to cover the employee only. If you want to cover a spouse or a child you will pay extra out of pocket to cover them.

If you appreciate things like that, find the nearest proponent of domestic-partnership and thank them.

14 posted on 12/23/2004 7:50:19 AM PST by Who dat?
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I think it is a threat to society at large, because it is disgusting. We're talking about some very perverted, cynical behavior, and they want us to collectively condone it. I think that if we collectively condone it, there will be more of the disgusting behavior, because having society's approbation somehow gives others, who might otherwise be reticent, courage to get into the behavior. And therein lies the problem for me: there is an attempt here to degrade society, to rot it from within, and I am not willing to have it happen.

It is also very deadly behavior. Early death sucks.


15 posted on 12/23/2004 7:50:45 AM PST by Migraine
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Call me a knee jerk reactionary, but since this idea comes from the liberal left, I have to think it is a bad idea. After all, the liberal left gave us the welfare state, separation of church and state, sex education, abortion, NARAL and the ACLU.


17 posted on 12/23/2004 7:51:03 AM PST by stylin_geek (Liberalism: comparable to a chicken with its head cut off, but with more spastic motions)
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The continued degradation of monogamy, protection of children, and respect for women will suffer. One may not "see" these effects five or ten years down the road, just as one does not "see" the millions of aborted children since Roe v. Wade was enacted.

In other words, an overt appearance is not required for there to be a demonstrable effect.

A deepening rut in our societal norms is not something to be thought of as negligible.

18 posted on 12/23/2004 7:51:21 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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Its all about money , not love. You can love your dog ,Fido, if you want for all I care. Just dont expect me to offer Fido your pension or your life insurance or your health insurance.


19 posted on 12/23/2004 7:51:30 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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Libertarians also want to legalize drugs, prostitution and unrestricted gambling.

They also are against metal detectors at airports, the Nativity scene on public property, etc.

What makes you think they are right on this issue?


20 posted on 12/23/2004 7:51:31 AM PST by KidGlock (W-1)
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I think all marriages should be between poeople who have the same sex!


Imagine that the husband is having one type of sex while the wife is having another type of sex.

That would be so frustrating for them...

21 posted on 12/23/2004 7:52:03 AM PST by mrsmith
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It demeans the institution of marriage..


23 posted on 12/23/2004 7:52:43 AM PST by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to propagate her gene pool. Any volunteers?)
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radical feminists are waging a culture war on america. we can witness their attempts to rewrite american history, ban traditonal american values, and increase their political influence over traditional americans.

western civilization has evolved over thousands of years. why should america give in to a radical experiment by a fringe group with dubious moral values?


27 posted on 12/23/2004 7:55:51 AM PST by thejokker
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what specific indisputable adverse consequences to society do opponents predict to occur

Of course, if you cite other examples of allowing the foundation of society to be weakened, and point out the cesspool we are living in because of it, they will claim that there is no "undisputable" eveidence that their latest sickness will fester and cause more harm. The slippery-slope theory has panned out time and again, but those who profit from it will not concede - it is up to the righteous to stop this nonsense.

28 posted on 12/23/2004 7:55:51 AM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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same sex marriages are a mockery of "the laws of Nature and Nature's God," upon which our legal system is based. It's an attempt to overthrow our founding documents, disguised as a civil rights issue (as most such coup attempts are).

Sorry, but someone's not going to get their Christmas wish, if this country is to survive. Of all the issues facing us, this is the most destructive.

Memo to homos: Just go somewhere where you can get what you want, instead of trying to change a whole country for your own whims.

Pity that the freaks seem to understand the process of self government better than the people who really deserve it.

29 posted on 12/23/2004 7:56:15 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (Leftists Are Losers.)
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Have the majority assent to a major paradigm shift that alters our moral fabric just to accomodate the squeaky wheel minority? ... I don't think so.

/snag


30 posted on 12/23/2004 7:56:27 AM PST by Snagglepuss (Thoughts are things)
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The behavior is morally harmful. Homosexuality should be tolerated, not condoned. What gays are demanding is really a change in what is morally acceptable--and most people of faith simply cannot concede this point.


33 posted on 12/23/2004 7:56:42 AM PST by ultima ratio
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Do you also oppose laws against polygamy?


35 posted on 12/23/2004 7:57:56 AM PST by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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