Father of India's economic revolution dead

23-12-04

[Moorings]

There is no reason to insult people from "little towns in Texas". If you don't think much of them you should not be on this site. A lot of Freepers are from little towns.

[steve86]

I am from a little town also. Ha, ha. Probably much smaller and more rural than his.

[StolarStorm]

Even funnier considering that Kingwood isn't really a small town, it's a suburb of Houston. I've never lived in a city smaller than 3 million. In addition, it should have been noted that I work for an airline.

Not only am I very interested in international affairs and news... I've actually been to more places on the planet than most on this board. My gripe is simply against professionals posting articles and comments here for PR purposes. I rooted one out already. There are a number of these folks.

That said, I freely admit to having a bias against the India government. I don't appreciate a country that slaps 70% tariffs on our goods, yet constantly whines about efforts to curtail outsourcing and refuses to engage in TWO-SIDED free trade. The Indian people themselves will suffer from their own government's anti-Americanism and vampire like trade policies.

[sukhoi-30mki]

Is that so??Well I hope you can take time off to visit the websites of Chevrolet,Ford & GM on their India operations-they are raking in millions with their latest offer being SUVs which have become a craze among the middle class.& these companies have put a few Indian manufacturers like Tata & Hindustan Motors under strain with competition.What about the Genetically modified crops that have pretty much crushed the livelihood of many an Indian farmer?They wouldn't have endedup in India if there were 70 % import tarrifs.I can go on & on about patenting & consumer items.

In short,while BPO has put Americans out of work,American companies operating in India have severely damaged small scale & local manufacturers.Globalisation works both ways-learn to live with that.

[steve86]

Snowing there tonight? Merry Christmas!

[Moorings]

Globalisation works both ways-learn to live with that.

Is that some sort of a slogan. I have heard is used on American workers who have lost their jobs and have complained about it. It seems to be popping up in a lot of places. Its kind of like saying "shut up and take it with a grin". After all those who complain are mentally incapable of adjusting, and need to be instructed by their betters.

If the jobs moved from India to even cheaper locations, I am sure everyone will be quietly and reasonably "learning to live with it".

[jesda]

Bunch of stupid flamers.
Merry christmas!

[sukhoi-30mki]

No,it's not a slogan but a bloody reality to which all of us should adjust.Whenever Coke or Pepsi open a new plant in India or Kenya or wherever,they put out of business numerous local beverages & their makers.The same goes for an Indian or South Korean farmer whose produce cannot compete in the Western world(due to the subsidies) & in his own country(due to the availability of patented "high yielding" seeds).The Western world has only recently started seeing the effects of globalisation-China has been witnessing it for over 20 years & India for over 10.This isn't slogan mean't for American workers who lose their jobs to Indians or the retrenched staff of the Centaur hotel in Mumbai,which was privatised by the Government of India over an year ago.

[Moorings]

Whenever Coke or Pepsi open a new plant in India or Kenya or wherever,they put out of business numerous local beverages & their makers.

But for the jobs lost, new ones have been created due to these new plants.

The Western world has only recently started seeing the effects of globalisation-China has been witnessing it for over 20 years & India for over 10.

China and recently India has been on the receiving end of the jobs flow. Its great to be on the receiving end. A lot of those jobs don't come back, and new equal ones are not created fast enough- that is the ground reality.

retrenched staff of the Centaur hotel in Mumbai,which was privatized by the Government of India over an year ago.

Not the same as outsourcing to a foreign country.

The Western world has only recently started seeing the effects of globalization.

Actually, manufacturing jobs started disappearing a while back.

I am not against free trade e.t.c. as long as its not a one sided affair. However, when people here voice their frustrations here, I resent patronizing lecturing that comes from overseas at those "stupid" Americans to learn to live with it.

If this kind of sudden jobs drain happened in India (even S. India where you live), there will be strikes, sit-ins, hunger strikes, burned vehicles on the road e.t.c. Considering that, Americans adjust rather well to the jobs market.

Anyway, don't mind my heated demeanor on this subject. I am a little touchy when told to live with it, though I don't expect any sympathy either.

[sukhoi-30mki]

Hmm,I was not showing sympathy either!!Many of the Public sector undertakings(including the Centaur hotel i happened to mention) was taken over by consortiums of which multinationals were shareholders.Your right,new jobs were created -but for every 5 new jobs created,10 others were booted out.The fact of the matter is the tyre burning & strike phase is coming to a gradual end in India with most states having passed legislation to control it.The next on the line for privatisation/disinvestment will be the 2 national airlines & the postal service. & Living in India & reading a lot of English and regional language papers,I can say most people see that as necessary.A privileged bunch will get jobs,others will lose it.If Im not mistaken,Indian IT majors like Wipro & TCS have opened American operations in the US which employees Americans-jobs being created there too(which ofcourse won't compensate for those lost).

[AM2000]

Yes, I have a problem with the number of Indian articles that have been posted lately.

Well my dear friend, I will make sure to ping you on each and every India-related thread I post, going forward :)

[Cronos]

See here, if someone praises a democracy like Israel or India, they WILL come under fire

[Cronos]

That said, I freely admit to having a bias against the India government. I don't appreciate a country that slaps 70% tariffs on our goods, yet constantly whines about efforts to curtail outsourcing and refuses to engage in TWO-SIDED free trade. The Indian people themselves will suffer from their own government's anti-Americanism and vampire like trade policies.

That's a good point. It IS a difficult line to walk -- disliking a government and not harbouring hatred against the people. Many freepers seem to have crossed the line and appear bigotted (not you, but others, or perhaps that's the way they seem though they don't mean it).