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To: VadeRetro; Michael_Michaelangelo; Alamo-Girl; marron; PatrickHenry
This sad P.O.S. had its own thread. If you think it's a scientific paper, you probably think a Jack Chick comic is a scientific paper.

Oh, wait a minute! I'm talking to a YEC, here.

Please forgive me for intruding on a not-so-private conversation here, VR. But trashing one's opponent is no way to win an argument, before any fair judge. IMHO FWIW

Instead, may one propose a better way: Try to engage in a rational debate of the issues in dispute in good faith. One hopes this sort of thing is still possible.

370 posted on 12/22/2004 7:10:09 PM PST by betty boop
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To: betty boop
Try to engage in a rational debate of the issues in dispute in good faith.

That's very charming, BB, as I would expect from you. We do try. Really we do. But eventually, it becomes apparent that some of the posters around here don't qualify for such treatment. I usually ignore them, but sometimes it's difficult.

373 posted on 12/22/2004 7:15:48 PM PST by PatrickHenry (The List-O-Links for evolution threads is at my freeper homepage.)
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To: betty boop
Thanks BB! I couldn't agree more.

Don't worry about me, though; I take it all with a grain of salt. I'm not going to let a few grumpy old men dissuade me, nor would I expect anyone else to leave here because of their tirades and ad homs.

If I spend less time here, it will be to spend more time with the family and to get some more golfing in. :)

Have a great holiday and a Merry Christmas!

376 posted on 12/22/2004 7:25:25 PM PST by Michael_Michaelangelo (The best theory is not ipso facto a good theory.)
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To: betty boop; PatrickHenry; VadeRetro
Instead, may one propose a better way: Try to engage in a rational debate of the issues in dispute in good faith. One hopes this sort of thing is still possible.

Indeed. And we see quite a bit of success - notably on threads you are managing.

Seems to me that the "secret" is at least one side of the debate treating the other side with respect no matter what has been said.

377 posted on 12/22/2004 7:26:52 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: betty boop
Please forgive me for intruding on a not-so-private conversation here, VR. But trashing one's opponent is no way to win an argument, before any fair judge. IMHO FWIW

You have to understand, Betty. When I point out that, with all the distortions and fallacies it contains, Meyer's paper might as well be a creationist pamphlet tacked up on a corkboard in a laundromat, I think I'm saying something bad about it.

Then I realize that I'm talking to someone whose response to such a charge would be "Well? So?"

429 posted on 12/23/2004 7:15:10 AM PST by VadeRetro
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