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To: Havoc
I guess I could just say Robert V. Gentry - couldn't I.. But I'll give you two for starters. How many are we supposed to provide? Or are 2 merely dismissable? All I had to do is google it and got two cases right away.

CREATIONIST FIRED BY SCIENTIFIC AMERICAN

The headline is in error. The creationist was never hired by SA in the first place. All we can see is that the guy went for an interview and didn't get selected, though SA appears to have taken some freelance pieces from him since then.

Archive documenting censorship against Robert V. Gentry

Neither of the requirements placed on Mr Gentry to have his submission accepted are unreasonable. All he needs to do is comply with them.

Gentry, btw, is the scientist who discovered pulonium (sic) halos. His find was initially hailed, until it was realized it blew holes in the Big Bang theory, then it was attacked and he was defunded, etc. Gentry's Credentials were acceptable till his work caused problems that cannot be explained away.

Gentry's polonium halo hypothesis not only blows away Big Bang, it blows away the whole of physics being inconsistent with several theories supported by millions of data points, and his hypothesis is self-inconsistent because he explains his observations by suggesting that other decay rates must have changed whilst curiously that for polonium alone has remained constant. Further Gentry ignores the geology of the areas where the haloes are found, and does not propose a (workable) mechanism whereby polonium alpha-decay might be responsible for the haloes in the first place. Here is a comprehensive refutation of Gentry's assertions

Kenyon I know nothing about I am afraid.

Having read PH College's biblical worldview I would agree that it is inconsistent with science education (and history and archaeology too), since in the very first paragraph students appear to be required to reject open-minded examination of the physical and historical evidence.

1,385 posted on 01/01/2005 2:54:52 AM PST by Thatcherite (Conservative and Biblical Literalist are not synonymous)
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To: Thatcherite
Having read PH College's biblical worldview I would agree that it is inconsistent with science education (and history and archaeology too), since in the very first paragraph students appear to be required to reject open-minded examination of the physical and historical evidence.

I'd go beyond that, and say that requiring faculty members to agree to the "statement of biblical worldivew" makes anything beyond rote learning all but impossible; dissent from the university's position on everything from abortion to socialism to pornography is not only a violation of policy, but a heresy.

1,391 posted on 01/01/2005 10:02:29 AM PST by ReignOfError
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To: Thatcherite

Gentry's work has not been refuted - though your side does a good job of presenting stretches of the imagination as refutation.

PH College's worldview statement is what it is. If you're a Christian, you're expected to act like one. Embracing science doesn't mean embracing evolution. Evolution is not science. It attempts to put on heirs to that extent; but, it's a belief system - not science. PH merely acknowledges that If you're going to be a Christian in a Christian school you're going to do so in a Christian context. Science is in no way threatened by this. Lest we forget, most of the branches of modern science were started by Christian creationists. Christians are no more threatened by science now than they ever have been - they're rather intrigued by it and enthused at how much science bears up what the Bible says. So, you're essentially saying, you agree that discrimination is a proper activity to involve oneself in for defense of one's belief system.. Just what I was arguing - and what I showed. Thank you.

You discounted two of five, btw - didn't deal with Dini; but, given your approach to Patrick Henry College, I'm sure you could just say "so what". You've illustrated what you presumed to protest. Bad day?


1,395 posted on 01/02/2005 2:36:00 PM PST by Havoc (Reagan was right and so was McKinley. Down with free trade.)
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