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To: highimpact
there is no real evidence to suggest that evolutionary processes occur during any creature's life. I am the same person I was twenty years ago, and I will be the same person twenty years from now.

How can you claim to understand, and to have once been an evolutionist, and yet make such a statement? It reveals your ignorance. Individual creatures do not evolve by any contemporary evolutionary theory.

The statements were perfectly insightful as they were written.

Not if you truly believe that evolutionary theory requires such a thing as a "point" of evolution.

The problem is your evidence consists entirely of fossil records and biological function similarities across multiple species.

At least you finally admit that there is evidence. Fossil evidence shows a time before humans existed. Additional evidence is the ubiquitous observation of space-time continuity. So, there was some continuous process between no human and human. If you have a nonevolutionary theory to explain these facts, let's hear it.

There is no hard science to show how one species changes into another species.

Here again you are wrong--or rather, it completely depends on how you wish to define "hard" science. Evolutionary change can be observed experimentally in creatures that can be manipulated in large populations with short generations. Fossil evidence, of course, can only give us snapshots in time, but many of those snapshots appear to fall along a continuum of change from one species to another. Genetic similarites across different forms of life is explained most simply by common ancestry and more extensive expression of those changes that are observed experimentally.

309 posted on 12/28/2004 8:28:49 PM PST by beavus
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To: beavus
How can you claim to understand, and to have once been an evolutionist, and yet make such a statement? It reveals your ignorance. Individual creatures do not evolve by any contemporary evolutionary theory.

You simply don't get it. In order for one species to mutate into another species, there must be an evolutionary process during the life of the creature. Selective mating and environmental adaptation does not explain the leap from one species to another.

Here is your hard science:

many of those snapshots appear to fall along a continuum of change from one species to another.

Genetic similarites across different forms of life is explained most simply by common ancestry

None of your rhetoric actually explains the leap from one species to the next. It is purely observation of similarities and speculation about origins. The "evidence" that you are citing is nothing more an attempt to support a conclusion that evolution explains our existance.. This conclusion is not based on anything except similarities and observations.

Please to explain how an explosion resulted in this:

Cells are the fundamental working units of every living system. All the instructions needed to direct their activities are contained within the chemical DNA (deoxyribonucleic acid).

DNA from all organisms is made up of the same chemical and physical components. The DNA sequence is the particular side-by-side arrangement of bases along the DNA strand (e.g., ATTCCGGA). This order spells out the exact instructions required to create a particular organism with its own unique traits.

The genome is an organism’s complete set of DNA. Genomes vary widely in size: the smallest known genome for a free-living organism (a bacterium) contains about 600,000 DNA base pairs, while human and mouse genomes have some 3 billion. Except for mature red blood cells, all human cells contain a complete genome.

DNA in the human genome is arranged into 24 distinct chromosomes--physically separate molecules that range in length from about 50 million to 250 million base pairs. A few types of major chromosomal abnormalities, including missing or extra copies or gross breaks and rejoinings (translocations), can be detected by microscopic examination. Most changes in DNA, however, are more subtle and require a closer analysis of the DNA molecule to find perhaps single-base differences.

Each chromosome contains many genes, the basic physical and functional units of heredity. Genes are specific sequences of bases that encode instructions on how to make proteins. Genes comprise only about 2% of the human genome; the remainder consists of noncoding regions, whose functions may include providing chromosomal structural integrity and regulating where, when, and in what quantity proteins are made. The human genome is estimated to contain 20,000-25,000 genes.

In your world, all of this had to happen by chance in order for the first living cell to replicate itself. The leap from that one cell to our existance is unfathomable.

Take a good hard look at the world we live in: the environment that fosters us; the abundant variety of food; human emotions such as love and hate; intelligence and reason; good and evil; pets to comfort us and horses to ride; game to hunt and oceans to fish in; mountains to climb; trees that provide oxygen to breathe and wood to make paper and build shelter for people and livestock; the sun to warm us and provide UV light for plants that grow fibers that we use to create fabric to wear; minerals and fossil fuels that allow us to build cars to drive; electricity to power our homes; fire to warm us on a cold night; freon to cool us on a hot day. The pieces of this puzzle are endless, and they cannot be explained by random chance and selective mating habits beginning with a single-celled organism in a pool of prehistoric muck.

If you believe this is all an accident, and not of intelligent design, then there's nothing anybody can do to help you. Maybe someday, when you are faced with your own mortality, you will see the error of your twisted scientific logic. Maybe someday God will find you just as He found me. And give this some thought: the consequence of you being wrong is infinitely greater than the consequence of me being wrong. Exactly how confident are you in your scientific theories?

310 posted on 12/29/2004 7:23:33 AM PST by highimpact (The only way to defeat terrorism is to annihilate the terrorists)
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