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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
That's how this game works, Deborah. They've been playing this game for so long, and gbcdoj plays it now.

All your complaints are justified, all of them are correct. Your love of the Church and your understanding of the Faith is sincere.

But the modernists are on the inside, and they want you out. They want to turn things upside down, and to call their unholy things in and your holy things out. Desolation, standing where it ought not. But they don't want it to look as if they had tossed you out, they want to make it look like you left of your on own.

They actually want you to become a sedevacantist. That is, having failed, thank God, to incrementalize you into NeoCatholicism. Again, a classic "either/or" close; just a cheap sales trick.

My two cents. Keep up the good fight, but don't fall for it.

78 posted on 12/20/2004 11:35:29 PM PST by pascendi (Quicumque vult salvus esse, ante omnia opus est, ut teneat catholicam fidem)
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To: pascendi
They actually want you to become a sedevacantist. That is, having failed, thank God, to incrementalize you into NeoCatholicism.

What a bunch of nonsense. Don't you attend an indult Mass, pascendi? Are you "incrementalized into NeoCatholicism"? What exactly is "NeoCatholicism"? The way you use it, it seems to be synonymous with just plain Catholicism - you know, the kind in the Baltimore Catechism:

Q. 492. What is the duty of the faithful?

A. The duty of the faithful is to learn the revealed truths taught; to receive the Sacraments, and to aid in saving souls by their prayers, good works and alms.

Q. 494. What do we mean by "lawful pastors"?

A. By "lawful pastors" we mean those in the Church who have been appointed by lawful authority and who have, therefore, a right to rule us. The lawful pastors in the Church are: Every priest in his own parish; every bishop in his own diocese, and the Pope in the whole Church.


80 posted on 12/20/2004 11:47:25 PM PST by gbcdoj (Sancti Athanasius, Julius, Hilarius, orate pro nobis ut teneamus catholicam fidem semper)
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To: pascendi

You are right. One minute every sneeze from the hierarchy is infallible, then the next minute the definition is narrowed to sidestep the heresy. It's a no-win game.


94 posted on 12/21/2004 12:47:10 AM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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