[sevry]

how could Catholics pray for intercession of someone who is not in heaven?

That doesn't go to papal infallibility. That literally goes to the sham presently proposed. Think about it. They made the list, the real list - not the present list - because of . . . miracles! The real deal. That's how you know. That how people traditionally knew.

[Mike Fieschko]

how could Catholics pray for intercession of someone who is not in heaven?

That doesn't go to papal infallibility. That literally goes to the sham presently proposed. Think about it. They made the list, the real list - not the present list - because of . . . miracles! The real deal. That's how you know. That how people traditionally knew.

I'm not understanding you. Are you saying that all the (traditional) saints have miracles attributed to them (at least since the ninth century, when the process was formalized or taken under control by Rome)?

Or, are you saying that the declaration that the person is in heaven is not an exercise of the extraordinary magisterium?

No time to search for it now, but it's my understanding that we are required to believe that the person's in heaven. I've also seen statements that the Holy Ghost protects the Pope from erring in determining the facts in support of the canonization.