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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
One thing is for certain. The Holy Spirit is no longer safeguarding the hierarchy from error.

Where does this certainty derive from, the Church, "the pillar and foundation of truth," or your infallible judgement?

107 posted on 12/21/2004 5:11:37 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Aquinasfan

Catholics and non-Catholics alike can use their God give common sense to see a Church in full meltdown. No infallibility required. Why are personal digs necessary when someone disagrees with you?

Perhaps you can answer the following questions for me. Do Mahony and Kaspar hold the Catholic Faith full and entire? Partially or microscopically? Is the Holy Spirit guiding a Church whose hierarchy make the following claims and more?

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Did the Holy Spirit safeguard Mahony when he wrote an heretical document claiming the Eucharist is present in the assembly? Even Mother Angelica had a problem with it. How about when he ruled there was no liturgical abuse going on in his diocese despite PICTURES to the contrary?

Was the Holy Spirit present when Mahony built his pagan temple complete with an inverted pentagram roof, a snake winding through the children's garden and sheep dogs about to attack the sheep?

Is the Holy Spirit present every time Kasper opens his mouth to utter yet another heretical statement?

Was the Holy Spirit present when the Pope kissed the Koran, a book which commands our slaughter as infidels?

Was the Holy Spirit present when the Magisterium claimed the Jews no longer need convert to be saved?

Do you call all of the above adherence to the Catholic Faith?


201 posted on 12/21/2004 1:38:01 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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