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He believes that “latter-day saints” offer a much-needed example at a time when Christianity is under threat from secularism and rival religions.

We can still have these examples of people who lead exemplary spiritual lives, but we should not "cheapen" sainthood in the process.

1 posted on 12/20/2004 5:45:44 PM PST by wagglebee
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I nominate GWB and Laura for sainthood. The vilification they have put up with defies all reason.


98 posted on 12/21/2004 4:30:39 AM PST by tkathy (The Bluenecks need to get over it.)
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I don't like this idea, primarily because it will be seen in the secular world as a caving in to what secularists regard as a fact, that miracles associated with saints no longer occur, if they ever did. IOW, this will have the opposite effect of what the pope intends.
101 posted on 12/21/2004 4:48:47 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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The Pope, 84, has created 482 saints in his 26 years as pontiff — more than all his predecessors put together — and has beatified 1,337 people. He believes that “latter-day saints” offer a much-needed example at a time when Christianity is under threat from secularism and rival religions.

Cranking out saints to strengthen the religion is like cranking out greenbacks to strengthen the economy.

116 posted on 12/21/2004 6:14:16 AM PST by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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At present, candidates for beatification, which confers the title “Blessed” and is the penultimate step before sainthood, must be shown to have performed at least one miracle after death by curing the terminally ill in response to prayers of intercession.

I thought that the miracles could be any kind of miracle -- it's just that medical miracles have always been the easiest to prove.

118 posted on 12/21/2004 6:26:31 AM PST by BlessedBeGod (George W. Bush -- The Terror of the Terrorists)
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I'm a saint.


149 posted on 12/21/2004 7:55:19 AM PST by Sloth (Al Franken is a racist.)
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It could also revive plans to beatify Robert Schuman, the French-born founder of the EU, shelved earlier this year because of lack of evidence that anyone had been cured after praying to him.

I'm just a simple Presbyterian boy, but I thought the bible was pretty clear on not praying to anyone but God. How is this different that false idol worship? Not looking for a fight, just curious!

166 posted on 12/21/2004 8:40:01 AM PST by HonorInPa
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Hmmmm I didn't know that miracles on demand made one a "Saint". The Bible states a believer is a "Saint" with or without miracles.


171 posted on 12/21/2004 8:50:17 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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We can still have these examples of people who lead exemplary spiritual lives, but we should not "cheapen" sainthood in the process.

It's a miracle!

185 posted on 12/21/2004 11:56:48 AM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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