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Kerry Would Beat (Jeb) Bush In 2008
CPOD ^ | Dec 20, 2004

Posted on 12/20/2004 8:10:43 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

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In a related story a Fox News Dynamic Poll found that if the election were held today John Kerry would win by 7 percentage points.


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81 posted on 12/20/2004 10:03:09 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: APFel

"What does the general public know about ANY of those Republican "candidates"? John Kerry had a huge national campaign, and while no one knows what his policies are about, they at least know who he is."



Not only that, Kerry still maxes out at 45%. Polling for President this early on makes absolutely no sense.

I just hope Adlai Kerry gets the Dem nomination again in 2008 so that he can lose by an even bigger margin.


82 posted on 12/20/2004 10:03:41 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

It does make sense if you need to create a "controversy" for viewers OR you need to keep you core from defecting to the green party.


83 posted on 12/20/2004 10:07:31 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: mcg1969
"Trust me, Cliff Elkins is a troll."

Just a smoldering heap now ;)

84 posted on 12/20/2004 10:07:54 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: longtermmemmory

"I believe it is 53% now, with OVER 6 million american voter margin."



Actually, with almost all absentee votes in, Bush's percentage is down to 50.73%, and his popular vote victory margin is a bit over 3 million votes:

George W. Bush 62,040,237 50.73%
John F. Kerry 59,027,612 48.27%


85 posted on 12/20/2004 10:10:27 AM PST by AuH2ORepublican (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.)
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To: Voice in your head

Point is none of them can break 50% against unknowns. That's really bad news for Rodham and Kerry, actually.


86 posted on 12/20/2004 10:11:33 AM PST by dangus
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To: dangus

Yes. Hillary and Kerry are bumping their heads in the mid 40s. Put a good GOP candidate up against them and you have a blowout.


87 posted on 12/20/2004 10:14:31 AM PST by DaveDCMetro
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Here's something interesting.

Ronald Reagan's final share of the popular vote in 1980: 50.8%

George W. Bush final share of the popular vote in 2004: 50.8%

And it all comes full-circle :)


88 posted on 12/20/2004 10:16:23 AM PST by DaveDCMetro
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Thanks for the correction, that's what I get for working and FRing at the same time.


89 posted on 12/20/2004 10:17:08 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: Cicero

If the economy is turned around, and the war on terror goes well, I think Jeb could run and win in 2008 based a "Dubya's third term"/"stay the course" campaign. If he runs, he starts out with a good electoral map (he nails down Florida, making the battleground the Midwest and Upper Midwest).

I'd certainly vote for him.


90 posted on 12/20/2004 10:19:12 AM PST by hchutch (A pro-artificial turf, pro-designated hitter baseball fan.)
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To: soccer_linux_mozilla

Well, you are aware that like anyone else who is a citizen, he does have a right to run for the office doesn't he? As long as he fits all other criteria, he does! He might not win; but he does have a right to run. I know some people might not vote for him for the reason you stated.

However, it's not like he just inherits the office! We don't live in a monarchy, or a dictatorship! But some people will support him, and they have a right to, whether he wins or not! So why not let him run if he wants to; and lets see what happens? Personally, I don't have a problem voting for him! And like I asked you above, he's not forbidden to run, is he?


91 posted on 12/20/2004 10:35:56 AM PST by dsutah
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Polls don't mean much this far out. Any known democrat would get a 40% rating at this point, just as any nominee of either party starts with a minimum of 40% of the vote. The republicans on the poll aren't known outside their own states and that's why they don't reach the 40% minimum yet.

The only interesting fact in the poll is the spike (for HRC) caused by throwing Jeb Bush into the question. There are more than a few citizens who won't vote for another Bush, whatever his qualifications. Most of the founding fathers recognized the dangers of having executive leadership devolve up a few families.

92 posted on 12/20/2004 10:45:35 AM PST by Moosilauke
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To: gohot

Uh, just how will that happen? If I remember right, he would have to campaign on his own merits, wouldn't he? It's not like he's installed, good grief! You'd have just as much to worry about with the Clinton's, wouldn't you? If the man wants to run, he has a right to.

Also, if people want to vote for him on his own merits, they have a right to do that. So, as I wrote to someone else on this thread, let's just see what happens! You don't have to like it, but if he fits the criteria; he can run like anyone else! He isn't forbidden, just because his Dad and brother were President!


93 posted on 12/20/2004 10:48:16 AM PST by dsutah
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Can we put a moratorium on these silly polls until 2006? Nobody had a clue who was going to run in 2000 back in 1996. Same applies here.


94 posted on 12/20/2004 11:25:01 AM PST by Prime Choice (Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! ...And no, my powers can only be used for Good.)
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To: Prime Choice

Many of those running in 2006 won't have any other option but to support Bush policies.


95 posted on 12/20/2004 11:29:10 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection (www.whatyoucrave.com)
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To: marvlus
The latest polls show the child of Jenna Bush beating the child of Chelsea Clinton by 63% to 37% if the 2052 Presidential election were held today.

Best comment on this poll yet. Rather than indicating a Dem victory it at best suggests that name recognization and party loyalty are pretty good for the Pubbie prospects.

96 posted on 12/20/2004 11:29:48 AM PST by jimfree (Freep and ye shall find.)
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To: dsutah

it seems... some freepers needs some basic education


97 posted on 12/20/2004 11:31:32 AM PST by Toidylop
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To: gohot
I would NEVER vote for another BUSH simply to stop a monarchy from forming.

Just out of curiousity, if Jeb Bush ran, and got the nomination. Does this mean you wouldn't vote, or you would vote democratic (say Hillary Clinton if she was the dem nominee) or vote 3rd party.

And no, I'm not disparaging or mocking you.

98 posted on 12/20/2004 2:14:38 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: xzins
Many don't know it, but he's got an 89% ACU rating as a conservative.

And rising, since he became majority leader, its risen to 89, it'll be in the 90's in a year or so.

Won't go much higher, since he's leaving the senate in 2006.

99 posted on 12/20/2004 2:16:46 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

JEB AIN'T RUNNING SO WHO CARES.


100 posted on 12/20/2004 2:18:48 PM PST by The Wizard (DemonRATS: enemies of America)
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