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Kerry Would Beat (Jeb) Bush In 2008
CPOD ^ | Dec 20, 2004

Posted on 12/20/2004 8:10:43 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

Massachusetts senator John Kerry could win the presidency in 2008, according to a poll by Opinion Dynamics released by Fox News. 45 per cent of respondents would vote for the 2004 Democratic nominee in a head-to-head contest against Republican Florida governor Jeb Bush.

In other prospective elections, New York senator and former first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton leads three Republicans: Florida’s Bush, Tennessee senator Bill Frist and New York governor George Pataki.

Rodham Clinton was first elected to the U.S. Senate in 2000, defeating Republican Rick Lazio by 12 per cent. She ruled out a presidential bid in 2004.

Other high-profile Republicans who may run for office in 2008—such as former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani and Arizona senator John McCain—were not included in the survey. Current president George W. Bush is constitutionally barred from seeking a third term in office.

Polling Data

Thinking ahead to the next presidential election, if the 2008 presidential election were held today and the candidates were (insert choices here), for whom would you vote?

John Kerry (D) 45% - 37% Jeb Bush (R)
Hillary Rodham Clinton (D) 40% - 33% Bill Frist (R)
Hillary Rodham Clinton (D) 41% - 35% George Pataki (R)
Hillary Rodham Clinton (D) 46% - 35% Jeb Bush (R)


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2008
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To: KJacob

I agree. If Jeb wins the primaries and ultimately the general election, he won fair and square. This idea that Jeb shouldn't be allowed to run because who his brother and father are is equivalent to affirmative action.


101 posted on 12/20/2004 2:19:05 PM PST by Revenge of Sith
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To: BobL
Other than Senator Frist, I'm hard pressed to name any other darn good Republicans in the top tier.

Do you know of any?

Its a little early now, there's about 2 governors, possibly 3 (not including Jeb) who will probably run in 2008, not to mention a few senators.

In 1996, most people hadn't even heard of John Kerry, in 1988, Clinton was the guy who gave a long speech about nothing and no one thought he would even be a viable canidate for the dem nominee one day.

4 years is a long time, Guys like Warner (from carolina, not virginia), Pawtanley, Owens, Rommey will be major players on the state along with the host of senators.

More likely then not, most Americans right now, aren't farmiliar with the person who will be the 2008 GOP nominee.

102 posted on 12/20/2004 2:24:52 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Sonny M

"More likely then not, most Americans right now, aren't farmiliar with the person who will be the 2008 GOP nominee."

Thanks for the names. I agree, it will either be Jeb or a (presently) unknown. After what the base did for Bush in this election, they are not going to be ignored 2008 with a candidate like Guliani or McCain.


103 posted on 12/20/2004 2:29:36 PM PST by BobL
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To: BobL
Thanks for the names. I agree, it will either be Jeb or a (presently) unknown. After what the base did for Bush in this election, they are not going to be ignored 2008 with a candidate like Guliani or McCain.

To be honest with you, I don't think Jeb is running. He's said it over and over again that he won't run in 2008. He's also young, and seems to be more of a wonk then his brother.

Guliani is not going to run for prez in 2008 either. He's more then hinted that he's going to take a shot at a NY job (i.e. governor or senator). I think he's waiting to see what Pataki does.

McCain knows his own limitations, and also knows which senators are probably going to run, I think McCain is getting more or less ready to ride off into the sunset or serve in a cabinet spot down the road. Look for McCain to back Hagel in 2008 in the primary.

104 posted on 12/20/2004 2:34:12 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Sonny M

All makes sense, thanks. I think McCain and Rudy also have health problems that detract from a run.

Jeb would still be excellent, but I hear is wife is not too hot.


105 posted on 12/20/2004 2:51:41 PM PST by BobL
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To: BobL

"but I hear is wife is not too hot..."

Sorry for the hanging post. I meant to say that she's not too hot on the idea of her husband running for prez.


106 posted on 12/20/2004 3:05:53 PM PST by BobL
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To: Sonny M

He's got what I consider to the greatest credential a senator can have -- he doesn't aspire to stay there and make a career of that slickie-boy debating club.

Frist wants to get things done. That's why I think "nuclear" is a real option with him.

It's either the presidency or no more politics.


107 posted on 12/20/2004 3:07:06 PM PST by xzins (The Party Spirit -- the major issue that keeps me from taking them seriously.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Most people don't know Jeb very well and don't know Pataki or Frist at all.


108 posted on 12/20/2004 3:08:11 PM PST by Always Right
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To: BobL
Jeb would still be excellent, but I hear is wife is not too hot.

I'm surprised George W. Bush didn't use her in any campaign ads.

In 1988 George H.W. Bush had her in a well done and perfect campaign ad, I thought it was brilliant, I think that same ad would have done even better if W had used it.

109 posted on 12/20/2004 3:58:25 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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