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To: jonsie
Patriotic? She is wearing the colors of an enemy force that was determined to rip apart our nation. And don't give me that tired old "states rights" crap. The Confederate States sought an ending to the unity that eventually saved the world thru 2 world wars. Please......................
13 posted on 12/20/2004 2:29:59 AM PST by oioiman
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To: oioiman

Yup. . .we all know the Civil War had nothing to do with states rights.


16 posted on 12/20/2004 3:08:28 AM PST by Gunrunner2
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To: oioiman
Patriotic? She is wearing the colors of an enemy force that was determined to rip apart our nation. And don't give me that tired old "states rights" crap. The Confederate States sought an ending to the unity that eventually saved the world thru 2 world wars. Please........

great,were about to have the civil war fought on here for the millionth time lol

17 posted on 12/20/2004 3:16:45 AM PST by MetalHeadConservative35 (RIP Dimebag Darrell Of Pantera/Damageplan...Were gonna F-ing Miss you)
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To: oioiman
She is wearing the colors of an enemy force that was determined to rip apart our nation.

Look closely, those colors are the same as Old Glory.

22 posted on 12/20/2004 6:49:26 AM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: oioiman
The "South" just wanted to leave, and live in peace.

Nice re-write, and koolaid swallowing nimrod.

23 posted on 12/20/2004 7:07:06 AM PST by laotzu
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To: oioiman
"that tired old "states rights" crap"

States rights are "crap"?!! Thanks komrad.

24 posted on 12/20/2004 7:12:22 AM PST by laotzu
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To: oioiman
She is wearing the colors of an enemy force that was determined to rip apart our nation.

"Our"? Oh, yes -- yours and the other Unionists'. As for the rest of us -- we just work here.

And never mind that the States that left, did so as sovereign People, whose conquest was a matter of New York's being able in future to line its pockets. And you guys fought for New York to get rich -- and you didn't even get paid at the same rate they did! LOL!

And don't give me that tired old "states rights" crap.

The People, as in "we the People", are the States. Each People in each State are the ones who hold elections, amend the Constitution (at will), and sit in jury boxes. The People are sovereign -- but if you read the full Constitution and the scholarship on its ratification, you will discover that each one of the States was a sovereign entity -- indeed, an independent nation -- by the grant of King George in the Treaty of Paris, and it was as sovereigns that the States (= "People") ratified the Constitution and amended it with the Bill of Rights.

The People of the States made the country, and they can unmake it at pleasure.

It's a bitch when someone has the right to say "no", isn't it?

The Confederate States sought an ending to the unity that eventually saved the world thru 2 world wars.

Unforeseen eventuality, at the time that your part of the country conquered ours, and made it your vassal and plaything.

The States of the old Confederacy can't even hold elections any more, unless the Department of Justice says it's okay. That kinda outline the relationship for you?

An arrangement like that would have been inconceivable in the time of Andy Jackson or James Madison.

30 posted on 12/20/2004 10:04:44 AM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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the confedrates fought against a massive murdering horde known as the Union Army. The southern states fought because they were invaded, If my wife and children were raped and murdered by a massive murdering force which endorced a 'scorched earth' policy in regard to civilians I would fight back too. you coward.


45 posted on 12/20/2004 1:40:22 PM PST by DixieOklahoma (Alabama - in 2006 vote ROY MOORE governor! - don't let us down!)
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To: oioiman

"Patriotic? She is wearing the colors of an enemy force that was determined to rip apart our nation. And don't give me that tired old "states rights" crap. The Confederate States sought an ending to the unity that eventually saved the world thru 2 world wars. Please......................"

From your studies of the laws and history of this nation, do the individual states have the right to secede?


57 posted on 12/20/2004 8:40:46 PM PST by OldEagle (Haven't been wrong since 1947, except about Hillary.)
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To: oioiman

You have some nerve, considering you are FLYING those colors you are so "bravely" insulting from your personal page. You should be ASHAMED....My ancestor with the 11th Georgia fought for YOUR state in the conflict. His brother DIED! What a brave man you are, insulting the memory of those men, and the cause they gave everything for!


61 posted on 12/21/2004 4:16:24 AM PST by TexConfederate1861 (Sic Semper Tyrannis!)
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To: oioiman

You are ignorant of history old son. Go back and study up on it (NOT THE PC VERSION EITHER) then come back and talk to me. The Founders knew secession was an option, they planned for that in Article 9 and 10 of the Bill of Rights. But then you're so PC that you don't even know where our American Ideology comes from do you?! And if you're so intent on condemning the Southern States for their attempt to seceed, then you should also be condemning the Founders for seceeding from Britain! You can't have it both ways homey!


131 posted on 12/21/2004 7:45:35 PM PST by Colt .45 (Navy Veteran - Pride in my Southern Ancestry! Chance favors the prepared mind.)
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