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To: CyberAnt

Being a conservative does not mean that we have to march lockstep and defend every incompetent that calls himself a conservative. Rumsfeld has shown himself to be incompetent, insensitive, blame thrower (casting aspersions at our Army for his failures) who's more interested in playing cutesy-pooh at his press conferences than he is in doing the expected tasks of the SecDef (signing the letters to the families takes but little of his "precious" time and shouldn't be an afterthought; this shows him for what he is, an arrogant Ivy Leaguer who dare not condescend to fuffill his job duties). Rumsfeld needs to show some previously unseen class, and resign.


10 posted on 12/19/2004 1:29:04 PM PST by laconic
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To: laconic

"Rumsfeld has shown himself to be incompetent, insensitive, blame thrower (casting aspersions at our Army for his failures)"

EVIDENCE - PLEASE!!

Actually, you don't have any .. and this pitiful attack on Rumsfeld is just over the top and way out of line. Since you're calling such an accomplished Patriot "incompetent" .. it's a good indication that you're the one who's incompetent. So .. to help you out - have somebody with a brain read the following to you - it's information you might be able to understand - but I won't be holding my breath:

The word from a soldier just back from Iraq (Awesome Letter to the Editor - San Diego Union Tribune) San Diego Union Tribune | 12/18/04 | DALE MELVILLE

Posted on 12/18/2004 7:25:08 AM PST by bkwells

The word from a soldier just back from Iraq

I have been in the Army for the last seven years. I have gone through the good and bad times in the military. It is a lifestyle that if you do not live every day, you cannot even come close to understanding.

I have been to Bosnia, Kosovo, and have just returned from Iraq. I can tell you that no one feels the loss of soldiers more than we do.

Even the families do not deal with the emotional pain and stress that we do when we have to pick up the remains of our friends – the same friends that we joked with, lived with, even shared our deepest fears and worries of life with, and in many cases the same friend who saved your life the week before.

I am always concerned with how the Army can be more effective at saving the lives of my fellow soldiers. Armor is not always the answer. In fact, armor can prevent us from being able to do our job. Every pound of armor makes us less effective fighters.

I patrolled the streets of Baghdad in a Humvee that had no doors, let alone armor. This was a decision that I made so that I was a more effective soldier. With better fields of vision, I could respond more effectively to the hazards of a combat zone.

I am an explosive ordnance disposal technician tasked with the removal of the roadside bombs, or IEDs, and unexploded ordnance in Iraq. The IEDs in Iraq often have enough explosives in them that the armor on most trucks proves to be ineffective at close range. Armor is a great asset and improves morale in some cases, but it is not the answer to our problems in Iraq.

There has never been an IED campaign in the history of the world like the one we are living through in Iraq. There is no way the leadership that sent us to war could possibly have known to expect these extreme attacks on its fighting force and the effects on the morale that the Army has suffered during these attacks. What the Army needs is to hunt out and destroy these insurgents, and that, of course, is not an easy task.

Then comes the true kick in the gut. The news media do not report the great things that we have accomplished in this country – the lives we have saved, and freedom that we are providing to a people who do, in fact, want this freedom. Freedom is not won overnight; there are pitfalls that must be overcome, and that takes time.

Instead, the media have decided to attack our morale by attacking our top leadership. There are a lot of things a soldier must deal with in combat; how are we supposed to perform when we have to deal with irrelevant controversy in Washington, D.C., as well?

The truth is that we have excellent leadership that supports us in every mission and provides us top-of-the-line equipment to accomplish our missions. We are at war, and war is not perfect.

I joined the Army because I love my country, a deeper and different love than I think most Americans can understand. I find this same patriotism in the soldiers I work with, even though there are prevalent risks to their lives. They do this because they and I believe in our country. We are soldiers: We adapt and over come all situations. We have been doing it since the birth of our country.

Leave our leadership alone, and we can and will win this war; and frankly, we do not need your selective reporting of how we are doing. We know our mission and objectives; our leadership has and continues to inform us wisely.

DALE MELVILLE Pine Bluff Arsenal, Ark.


16 posted on 12/19/2004 1:42:57 PM PST by CyberAnt (Where are the dem supporters? - try the trash cans in back of the abortion clinics.)
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To: laconic
I'd say that Mr. Rumsfeld has a certain McNamara-esque feature about him, in that he is trying to make a name for himself by doing things on the cheap.

Yet it is the job of others, including the President, to remind the Secretary, of what is expected of him, by them, by us.

In general, Mr. Rumsfeld has performed the job well, in response to friends and critics and foes.

Given that there are almost no competitors on even a short list, for the job, he stays.

17 posted on 12/19/2004 1:44:56 PM PST by First_Salute (May God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: laconic

How long would a post about a Clinton appointed Sec of Defense be, when we found out he was not siging letters of notification. Now add on the de facto policy of women in combat because of lack of "manpower", factor in the turning of this war into a "police action" and presto.........if he were in a D administration, the howls here would be non-ending, and rightfully so.


87 posted on 12/19/2004 2:52:31 PM PST by jeremiah (Sunshine scares all of them, for they are all cockaroaches)
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To: laconic

Bullcrap


96 posted on 12/19/2004 3:04:05 PM PST by Unicorn (Two many wimps around The democrats would rather win the WH then win the war-Tom Delay)
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To: laconic

Finally, someone I agree with on this thread. Rummy was oversold right at the beginning---always beware of that
kind of manipulation---the RIGHT man for the job would not have to be sold at all. Interesting===I wonder what the history is of this procedure---has ANY Sec of Def ever signed letters himself? I kind of doubt it.....but the thought occurs to me that IF THEY DID, it might put them in a little better touch with the gravity of what their orders can mean. So, I'm not surprised they use an autosigner, which insulates them from feeling.


126 posted on 12/19/2004 4:32:33 PM PST by willyboyishere
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To: laconic
"Rumsfeld has shown himself to be .. insensitive.. arrogant .."

And this ---- coming from a poster who chose a screen name that means, "concise to the point of seeming rude". Hahahahahahaha

128 posted on 12/19/2004 4:40:14 PM PST by Matchett-PI (Today's DemocRATS are either religious moral relativists, libertines or anarchists.)
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To: laconic

Amen on your #10!

Rumsfeld failed the test of morality. Sending men to war to find WMD...no wait I mean to free 25 million Arabs...is one thing. Not spending the time to sign the bloody condolence letters is a disgrace and I'm not going to mindlessly back him since that would make me every bit as moronic as the lock-step left.

1,400 soldiers killed since 9/11 is a little over one a day. Rumsfeld can't sign a letter a day???

DISGRACE!

Think of it this way folks - if Clinton/Albright couldn't sign a letter to a soldier's family and let a machine do it would everyone here be cool with it?

Didn't think so.


184 posted on 12/20/2004 6:25:37 AM PST by JCBurton
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