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To: PatrickHenry; Alamo-Girl

I don't buy it, but he's more qualified than me, so I'll let it go with little argument.

He may deal with the specifics of the stories elsewhere, but there are biblical stories told that his "God-guided evolution" has to dovetail into at some point.

I don't see how he can pull it off.

For example, pull a rational dovetailing of stories that puts australopithecus into the fall in Eden.


1,043 posted on 12/22/2004 4:06:34 AM PST by xzins (The Party Spirit -- the major issue that keeps me from taking them seriously.)
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To: xzins
For example, pull a rational dovetailing of stories that puts australopithecus into the fall in Eden.

Research the 'gap theory'. It says there's an indeterminate amount of time between Gen.1:1 and 1:2. There are theological reasons for this, stemming from the use of the Hebrew word for 'darkness' in v.2. Very interesting and compelling theory.

1,044 posted on 12/22/2004 4:10:12 AM PST by ovrtaxt (Political correctness is the handmaiden of terrorism.)
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To: xzins; PatrickHenry
Thank you so much for the ping!

He may deal with the specifics of the stories elsewhere, but there are biblical stories told that his "God-guided evolution" has to dovetail into at some point. I don't see how he can pull it off.

For example, pull a rational dovetailing of stories that puts australopithecus into the fall in Eden.

IMHO, because he puts too much emphasis on randomness --- a feature of the original Darwin formulation but not up-to-date with current thinking wrt the rise of complexity in biological systems --- he'll never be able to reconcile evolution with Scripture.

A number of us on the forum are engaged in a rather fascinating research project on the subject of complexity, randomness and biological information. There was a brief discussion on this thread beginning at post 116. But the bulk of the conversation is ongoing on this thread from about post 267 forward.

In sum, the notion that biological life arose by happenstance is being discredited by scientists and mathematicians. The discovery that complex systems – such as eyeness – evolved across many phyla concurrently is strong evidence that evolution was directed – the metaphysical naturalists and scientific materialists might suggest it was directed by immutable control genes in a common ancestor whereas Christians and Jews might say it is evidence of God’s voice in Creation. Either way, it is not "random".

The first link above is about the famous Oxford professor who was atheist for about a half century but has now decided that God is because there is no material explanation for the origin of life and rise of complexity in biological systems. He evidently came to this conclusion after a conference he attended with Gerald Schroeder, a Jewish Physicist. Perhaps he was influenced by Schroeder’s views on the subject:

Evolution: Rationality v Randomness


1,055 posted on 12/22/2004 7:46:27 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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