Posted on 12/18/2004 5:56:30 PM PST by PatrickHenry
Actually, Steven Hawking alone knows more about science than Jack Chick put together!
(With apologies to Walt Kelly...)
Yes, but you cannot fully explain how an engine was invented without discussing market forces. In other words, selection. No product as complex as an automobile is designed from first principles. Things get the way they are because unpredictable (not random, but nevertheless unpredictable) selective events occur.
It makes no difference to biological or product evolution how change occurs. Selection determines the ultimate direction of change, and selection is unpredictable.
The fundamental error of ID is in its assumption that complex systems can be designed from first principles, without an iterative process of production and selection.
Translation: "uh uh, I won't let you back *me* into a corner!"
I've made my point, none of you can come up with an intelligent rebuttal and none of you can refute what I have posted.
Like there's a *need* to refute obvious satire?
...ohmigod, wait, you were *SERIOUS*?
"You earlier stated that you had never seen an evolutionist address a certain point. Now I'm beginning to see why -- when they try, you start questioning their motives, their mental state, and your own willingness to have a discussion."
I still stand by that statement that E' never discuss the SOUL not "a certain point" the SOUL.
Specifically the soul, as described in Genesis when The Adam was created, called breath of life.
Actually my first question was when were the souls created, I further pointed to what Jeremiah was told and what we are told about Jacob and Esau.
Guess you might say I am getting bored retyping MY original question. You come along and want a specific description about what I mean with SOUL.
I have also plainly stated that I believe the Bible, however, I have also noted that man has had his fun in some places with the translating.
Furthermore I do not think so highly of myself that I can convince anyone there is a CREATOR, and He is who He says He is. I do not believe it is possible for man in the flesh to fully comprehend all of what we are told within the Bible.
The soul is described as the breath of life and the Adam was not living until that breath was breathed into him.
I really can't wait for your scathing response.
No need, it's perfectly valid.
and the inevitable conclusion that "If God played dice with the universe, He'd win.." I'll think about it
Okay, I'll bite... Why exactly would this be an "inevitable conclusion" of chaos theory?
I'd be glad to address it, if anyone actually *did* post something that "disproves evolution". So far, though, all I've seen are half-assed straw men attacks, or flat-out lies (which *have* been answered as well).
Why don't you step up to the plate and take a stab at being the first to actually post some?
Ot is yours just one of those "declare victory and then run for the exit" posts?
I don't understand what you are saying here.
"Your Honor, we rest our case."
Ja, doofenzee gaboofen.
LOL. When you talk to every biologist on God's earth, get back to me.
Is English not your first language?
Try reading his statement again until you understand it properly.
Or are you just playing dumb so that you have an cheap excuse to ridicule, as a substitute for dealing with his actual point (which refuted yours)? Additional support for this is provided by the fact that you did the same thing to *my* reply to you as well, presenting the same point.
Unable to deal with being disagreed with?
And you think the jury is on still out. Sure happy to hear you think you have solved the mystery of the universe.
LOL! :-)
Yeah. I suspect that they'll be petitioning to have it changed to suit their whims. Many of them seem to think that reality is dependent upon the desirability of beliefs.
"Yeah, all right. Just come along quietly now."
Great example! Thank you for the info.
The leap I am increasingly worried about is when people that think like you do start painting red crosses on peoples homes and businesses.
Context, son, context.
Do you know what Theosophy was?
To keep them from being bombed by the enemy?
No, to point them out to the enemy. But you knew that.
It's not son, it is nan.
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