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Tough Assignment: Teaching Evolution To Fundamentalists
Ft. Wayne Journal Gazette ^ | 03 December 2004 | SHARON BEGLEY

Posted on 12/18/2004 5:56:30 PM PST by PatrickHenry

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To: Junior

I'm still working on the process, but I figure that since it's so good at blowing leaves, it must be good for lots of things.


521 posted on 12/20/2004 1:29:33 PM PST by general_re ("What's plausible to you is unimportant." - D'man)
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To: js1138
We send people to the gas chamber on far less evidence. Using your standard, no criminal would ever be convicted.

That says something about the system and about our society - not about best case. Our system did not start out that way and wasn't intended to devolve to what it is now. And it serves as no excuse for what you pass off as fact. There's no excuse for it. When I took science in school, there was a far higher standard instilled by my prof. When I took logic, there was a far higher standard. If you're trying to tell me the standard has fallen that far in 10-15 years, you're really a pathetic bunch for allowing it. Cause ultimately, that is your credibility - absent that, you're nothing in your profession. Similar minds may back-pat you; but, that isn't credibility - that's ego stroking. If you don't know the difference, you should do something else. Contrary to the absurd accusations here, I've a genius plus level IQ and the ability to use it. That and a dollar will get a cup of coffee (or 4bucks at starbucks). Intellect is worthless if it isn't used properly. And people are useless if they think themselves smarter than the unwashed. For all you think you know, you don't seem to know the most important lessens. It is truly sad and sick.

522 posted on 12/20/2004 1:30:47 PM PST by Havoc (Reagan was right and so was McKinley. Down with free trade.)
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To: general_re
I'm still working on the process, but I figure that since it's so good at blowing leaves, it must be good for lots of things.

It's great for separating the cat litter from the poop but I still have a problem getting the litter back into the litter pan.

523 posted on 12/20/2004 1:31:50 PM PST by WildTurkey
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To: atlaw
What does this have to do with the theory of evolution?

Everything.

524 posted on 12/20/2004 1:31:59 PM PST by Havoc (Reagan was right and so was McKinley. Down with free trade.)
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I-missed-the-last-320-messages-and-id-do-it-again PLACEMARKER.


525 posted on 12/20/2004 1:33:32 PM PST by jennyp (Latest creation/evolution news: http://crevo.bestmessageboard.com)
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To: D Edmund Joaquin

Nobody in the Creationist camp would deny you your belief. But it ain't science. You want to argue it as a belief when the science is under attack and as science when the belief is under attack. It isn't science, it's a belief system. And as such, it has no place in the classroom. Period. I could care less about it otherwise. Without public funding, you guys would be sunk. And I'm going to help see to it that you're defunded and run out of the schools if it's the last thing I do on this earth.. which may be sooner than later; but, God willing, sooner.


526 posted on 12/20/2004 1:35:40 PM PST by Havoc (Reagan was right and so was McKinley. Down with free trade.)
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To: Havoc
which may be sooner than later; but, God willing, sooner.

So, up to now, God is fine with evolution in the schools?

527 posted on 12/20/2004 1:37:35 PM PST by WildTurkey
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To: Junior
Creationists are always mired in their personal pasts . . . Creationists never make allowances for advances.

Some evolutionists demonstrate a penchant for hyperbole.

528 posted on 12/20/2004 1:39:40 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Havoc

The science community believes in Kwanza. It embraces Kwanza. Kwanza for everyone. It's a religion they can relate to, unlike spookism (qh)


529 posted on 12/20/2004 1:40:21 PM PST by D Edmund Joaquin (Karenga says Kwanzaa is an "oppositional alternative" to Christianity - which he calls "spookism")
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To: Fester Chugabrew

I have told you a million times I do not engage in hyperbole.


530 posted on 12/20/2004 1:40:36 PM PST by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: WildTurkey
So, up to now, God is fine with evolution in the schools?

Why would He be? Let's just treat you like you treat him. You don't exist - at best, I have to assume you're just random modem noise so from here on out, I'm treating you as such.

531 posted on 12/20/2004 1:41:02 PM PST by Havoc (Reagan was right and so was McKinley. Down with free trade.)
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To: Havoc
Why would He be?

Because if he weren't, he would ban it from the schools.

532 posted on 12/20/2004 1:43:17 PM PST by WildTurkey
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To: Havoc
. Without public funding, you guys would be sunk.

Even with it they are losing ground. But, as you say, let us let get them off of welfare.

533 posted on 12/20/2004 1:43:26 PM PST by Dataman
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To: D Edmund Joaquin
The science community believes in Kwanza.

The evolution community believes evolution, they don't need Kwanza which is not a religion. They have their religious belief system defined in evolution. It will end up being run out most likely on that basis.. that it's a belief system, not science. And that's where it's headed now. Which is why science is in panic mode. Christians are off the defensive and 100% on the offensive now and building. They've had it and so has the public.

534 posted on 12/20/2004 1:44:27 PM PST by Havoc (Reagan was right and so was McKinley. Down with free trade.)
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To: Dataman

Welfare? I'll have you know the founder of Kwanza! was not on welfare! He was in prison


535 posted on 12/20/2004 1:44:52 PM PST by D Edmund Joaquin (Karenga says Kwanzaa is an "oppositional alternative" to Christianity - which he calls "spookism")
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To: Havoc

If you and your kind insist on taking Kwanza! away from the evolutionists and the scientific community, just what will they celebrate? "Winter" holidays? That would be paganism


536 posted on 12/20/2004 1:46:59 PM PST by D Edmund Joaquin (Karenga says Kwanzaa is an "oppositional alternative" to Christianity - which he calls "spookism")
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To: jennyp

I don't pretend to be an expert like some on these threads.

I am not a science major, but a history...


537 posted on 12/20/2004 1:48:46 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("War is an ugly thing, but...the decayed feeling...which thinks nothing worth war, is worse." -Mill)
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To: Ichneumon

Interesting.


538 posted on 12/20/2004 1:49:26 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("War is an ugly thing, but...the decayed feeling...which thinks nothing worth war, is worse." -Mill)
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To: WildTurkey
Because if he weren't, he would ban it from the schools.

No he'd leave it to us to deal with just as he always has. He may hold the hand of judgement; but, he sent moses to speak for him. He sent the Apostles to speak for him, and he still sends believers to speak for him - backed up with divine action when it's his will. He sent Noah to warn the people and prepare and nobody listened. Pharaoh wouldn't listen, etc. Nor will you. And in the end, you'll be sorry for it and probably madder at God or the notion of him than you are now. Your folly; but, expected.

539 posted on 12/20/2004 1:50:26 PM PST by Havoc (Reagan was right and so was McKinley. Down with free trade.)
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To: Havoc

Ok. You have your belief system which, in no way, can you base on any facts. The scientific field has their system which advocates a search for facts. Obviously, there is a disconnect between you and science. Sorry.


540 posted on 12/20/2004 1:51:18 PM PST by WildTurkey
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