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To: BobL

Well, your questions are not proof of your assertion, but ok, I'll answer them.

Can you name me a country where Muslims have been able to live under a non-Muslim government, once they became a sizable minority? I can name two, Indonesia, which has the largest Muslim population in the world. While there has been some violence, there is not threat of an Islamic government in the country. Second, Turkey, which also has a secular government which is not likely to give way to Islamism. For your second question: can you name me a Muslim country where there is any respect at all for people who are not Muslim. I'm not sure of your definition of Muslim country. Do you mean Muslim regime, or a country in which there is a majority of Muslims? And respect from whom? Many Muslims in Irans love Americans, including non-Muslim Americans, but their regime does not. Non-Muslims are well recieved by the regimes of Jordan, the UAE, and Kuwait, although there is a large percentage of the populace of those countries that do not take well to non-Muslims. There are also of course, Turkey and Indonesia. Why do you ask?


91 posted on 12/17/2004 5:16:10 PM PST by honest2God
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To: honest2God
I think that you're confusing Indonesia and Turkey. They clearly live under a Muslim government - maybe not theocratic, but certainly not Christian. I'm trying to find a country where Muslims are 15% or more of the population, but they live under a government of another religion.

As to the second question. I don't believe that there are any (certainly not many) Kuwaiti citizens who are non-Muslim - and yes, when they have enough money sometimes they can tolerate some infidels (although that doesn't seem to apply to the Saudis). I show Jordan as 6% Christian, and to me honest, I cannot remember an incident of civil strife - so you got me on that. I'm sure we both could name many, many, similar countries where there are big-time problems with non-Muslims (Egypt being the latest).
98 posted on 12/17/2004 5:25:32 PM PST by BobL
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To: honest2God

Your intellectual dishonesty is reprehensible. Your two countries example is flagrantly disingenuous.

Indonesia has suffered violence, as you admit, but success of overthrowing the government is a cynical rewrite of the question as originally posed to you.
Furthermore, Turkey's secular government was instituted by Kamal Ataturk with the express purpose of getting Islamic influence out of government. And by using draconian, though apparently necessary, measures I might add.

You may be honest2God, but He's probably the only one you're honest to.


113 posted on 12/17/2004 5:38:27 PM PST by papertyger
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