[muawiyah]

Actually, Arab Moslems got pretty much out of the serious war making business about 1,000 years ago when the Turks began whipping them.

The Turks won. The Arab speaking populations were pretty much kept as tax slaves until the Ottoman Empire was dismantled after WWI.

[papertyger]

Actually, Arab Moslems got pretty much out of the serious war making business about 1,000 years ago when the Turks began whipping them.

Actually, that's not quite right. They got out of the competent war making business then. That's not to say their penchant for lethal brawling abated in the slightest.