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WA Gov. Race: Republicans to Sue King County Over 573 Ballots
KOMO-TV ^ | 16 December 2004

Posted on 12/16/2004 11:59:33 AM PST by Publius

Republicans announced plans Thursday morning to sue King County over 573 newly discovered ballots that could change the outcome of the closest governor's race in Washington state history.

The county's Canvassing Board voted Wednesday to prepare the 573 absentee ballots for inclusion in the hand recount, over the objections of Republicans who urged the county to investigate the ballots first.

State GOP Chairman Chris Vance said Thursday the party would seek a court order Thursday afternoon in Pierce County, aimed at slowing down the processing of the previously rejected ballots to allow them to be better tracked and verified.

Specifically, the party wants to stop the county from separating the ballots from their outer envelopes, which Vance said would make it far more difficult to determine where the ballots came from, whether they were stored correctly, and why they were not counted previously.

Democrats applauded and Republicans decried the board's decision Wednesday to move forward with assessing the 573 previously rejected ballots. King County is a Democratic stronghold and the newly discovered ballots have the potential to change the outcome of the election.

"I get to vote, I did it right, and it gets to count," said King County Councilman Larry Phillips, whose ballot was among the 573 mistakenly rejected by election workers.

Election workers will verify signatures on the ballots, and the canvassing board will meet again Monday to decide whether to count the ballots that have been verified. The three-member board postponed a decision on what to do with 22 other newly discovered ballots but will consider that Monday as well, said Bobbie Egan, county elections spokeswoman.

Republican Dino Rossi won the Nov. 2 election over Democrat Christine Gregoire by 261 votes in the first count and by 42 after a machine recount. As of Wednesday he had gained 79 votes in the hand recount for a margin of 121.

The canvassing board voted 2-1 to move forward with recanvassing the 573 ballots. King County Election Director Dean Logan and Democratic King County Councilman Dwight Pelz voted for the recanvassing; voting no was Dan Satterberg, chief of staff for Republican King County Prosecutor Norm Maleng.

Satterberg complained that Logan was rushing, and said the board should take more time to figure out the story behind the newly discovered ballots.

"This is a matter of public integrity, public trust," Satterberg told Logan as they met before a row of TV cameras and reporters. "The appearance to the world that's watching is that you're rushing this through."

Logan said King County election workers made a mistake and he wanted to correct it. The absentee ballots were not counted originally because the voters' signatures had not been scanned into the county's computer system. Election workers should have checked the paper files, but instead the ballots were mistakenly rejected. The error was discovered only after Phillips saw his name on a list of rejected absentee ballots and notified Logan.

"The facts are pretty clear there was a discrepancy in the canvassing of these ballots," Logan said. "There is a record that shows these are validly registered voters who did nothing wrong."

State law allows counties to recanvass ballots and correct errors during a recount if there is "an apparent discrepancy or an inconsistency in the returns."

Election workers had found at least 245 of the 573 voters' signatures on paper registration records by Wednesday afternoon. They will continue checking the records and verify the ballots that belong to registered voters. Workers will then take those ballots out of their security envelopes and return them to the board for a final decision on whether they should be counted.

Vance urged the canvassing board to reject the ballots.

"At some point it just lacks credibility that they keep finding ballots," Vance said. "None of these ballots should be counted."

After the canvassing board vote, Phillips retorted, "I don't care what the chairman of the state Republican party has to say. I did my duty as a citizen and he's going to get out the way ... He has a right to have his vote counted and so do I."

State GOP attorneys are considering their options now. If the King County ballots are included in the recount, and they do end up putting Gregoire on top, lawsuits may ensue.

"It doesn't look like I'm going to do any Christmas shopping anytime soon," said Mark Braden, Rossi's chief lawyer, after leaving the canvassing board meeting.

The board delayed a decision on 22 other ballots- 20 absentee and two provisional - found in the side bins of plastic base units in which polling machines sit. All ballots should have been logged on Election Night and returned in a sealed bag to election headquarters, but these 22 apparently weren't. They've been sitting unsecured at various polling places since the election.

The hand recount is expected to finish by Dec. 22, though there's no deadline set in state law. The governor's inauguration is scheduled for Jan. 12.

Meanwhile, two members of the federal Election Assistance Commission arrived in Washington on Wednesday to observe the recount. Kay Stimson, spokeswoman for the commission, said the members wanted to learn about the historically close recount for a report on "best practices" by the states.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: dinorossi; fraud; gregoire; lawsuit; partyofthehindparts; ratfraud; recount; rossi; wot
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To: Publius
Virtual Tie
81 posted on 12/16/2004 12:46:28 PM PST by Splatter (A foolish man is able to learn, has the opportunity, and does not do it..)
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To: Publius

bump for later tonight

MORE NATIONAL SOCIALIST DEMONRAT FRAUD!!

See the ANTI-DNC Web Portal at --->
http://www.noDNC.com


82 posted on 12/16/2004 12:46:50 PM PST by woodb01 (See the ANTI-DNC Web Portal at ---> http://www.noDNC.com)
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To: goodnesswins
The Republican's are so silent.....because, like President Bush, I believe they know how to play POKER.....and the game ain't over yet!!! (Lots is going on behind the scenes)

That's funny... That's EXACTLY what the DUmmies think about the Rats working on the "election fraud" behind the scenes. I think the only difference might be that they've got delusion on their side and we got facts... Wonder if that counts for anything?

83 posted on 12/16/2004 12:47:12 PM PST by RogerWilko
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To: untrained skeptic
There is likely evidence to show if these ballots were rejected for invalid reasons. It also sounds like the Republicans are going to make very sure this is investigated carefully before any ballots are added to the count.

We'll probably get told to go s**t in our hats, though. But, the fight is far from over...

84 posted on 12/16/2004 12:47:19 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Go Ahead. Mace just makes me even more excited.)
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To: Publius
The county's Canvassing Board voted Wednesday to prepare the 573 absentee ballots for inclusion in the hand recount, over the objections of Republicans who urged the county to investigate the ballots first.

They haven't been verified??

85 posted on 12/16/2004 12:48:11 PM PST by Mo1 (Should be called Oil for Fraud and not Oil for Food)
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To: Mo1

Correctamundo.


86 posted on 12/16/2004 12:48:42 PM PST by Publius
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To: Chad Fairbanks

Right about now I would file a lawsuit against the Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin and Missouri board of elections to validate every registered voter in the state. If that was thrown out I would spend the next four years filing suits to have every voter validated.

This is ridiculous.


87 posted on 12/16/2004 12:49:02 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (60 votes and the world changes.)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet

And it doesn't matter exactly when the vote was actually created...after the fact, MAYBE???


88 posted on 12/16/2004 12:49:13 PM PST by liberateUS
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To: untrained skeptic
" Apparently when talking about democratic elections officials, it's not wise to underestimate their incompetence."

True. Democratic incompetence really can't be measured by any human scale. It has depths that have not been explored yet. No submersible can go that deep.
89 posted on 12/16/2004 12:49:44 PM PST by MissouriConservative (A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul)
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To: spudpuppy
I don't agree with Rad_J. Ballots that are found are checked against voter rolls, signatures are checked, and they check whether the voter voted already, before any "found" ballot is used. It's not some game.

Well, gee. I hope the people who voted with those 22 newly-found ones were kind enough to sign their names on them...

Oh, and welcome to Free Republic. Hope your first day here is as nice as mine was.

90 posted on 12/16/2004 12:49:46 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Go Ahead. Mace just makes me even more excited.)
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To: Chad Fairbanks

Thanks for the welcome. I'll come back with more on verification.


91 posted on 12/16/2004 12:50:51 PM PST by spudpuppy
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Yup. The rats are going to regret this for a loooong time.


92 posted on 12/16/2004 12:51:09 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Go Ahead. Mace just makes me even more excited.)
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To: Publius
Wasn't thinking of a chip, rather a retina scan. I'd say fingerprints too but I don't trust the government having fingerprints of everyone on file. A retina scan isn't really any more obtrusive than a picture ID, and would not be open to human interpretation. How many peoples drivers license looks like them? The retinal scan acts like the magnetic strip on your ATM card, and the pin is a number you own like the PIN for your ATM card
93 posted on 12/16/2004 12:51:11 PM PST by ProudVet77 (Beer - It's not just for breakfast anymore.)
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To: Publius

Best news I've heard all day.


94 posted on 12/16/2004 12:51:21 PM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: ProudVet77

You have an awful lot of faith in machines.


95 posted on 12/16/2004 12:52:35 PM PST by spudpuppy
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To: spudpuppy

Cool. And while you are out there, could you look up the number of Voters who have been verified as having cast a ballot in the election, versus how many ballots have been counted, and how many have been rejected?

I bet we'd find something interesting with those numbers...


96 posted on 12/16/2004 12:52:39 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Go Ahead. Mace just makes me even more excited.)
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To: ProudVet77; Publius
How many peoples drivers license looks like them?

Well, in Publius' case, he DOES look like his DL Photo ;0)

97 posted on 12/16/2004 12:53:36 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Go Ahead. Mace just makes me even more excited.)
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To: All

More on verification:
from PI article, "The canvassing board voted 2-1 to move forward with recanvassing the 573 ballots. "
"Canvassing" IS the process of verification.

Further:
"The absentee ballots were not counted originally because the voters' signatures had not been scanned into the county's computer system. Election workers should have checked the paper files, but instead the ballots were mistakenly rejected. The error was discovered only after Phillips saw his name on a list of rejected absentee ballots and notified Logan. "The facts are pretty clear there was a discrepancy in the canvassing of these ballots," Logan said. "There is a record that shows these are validly registered voters who did nothing wrong."

I'm just not sure what's wrong with this.


98 posted on 12/16/2004 12:54:27 PM PST by spudpuppy
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To: malakhi
Ask yourself honestly, if absentee ballots in a heavily-Republican county were disallowed because of an error by the tabulators, would Democrats not strongly be insisting they shouldn't be counted?

Of course they would be. And they'd be wrong to do so.

99 posted on 12/16/2004 12:55:12 PM PST by Politicalities (http://www.politicalities.com)
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To: spudpuppy

Well, maybe because this is a recount, not a recanvassing, but what is happening is a recanvassing...? Is that right or wrong?

Now, what about military absentee ballots that were mailed overseas and received late? Have those ballots been counted, or were they "mistakenly" rejected? If so, will they be recanvassed as well?

So many questions...


100 posted on 12/16/2004 12:57:13 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (Go Ahead. Mace just makes me even more excited.)
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