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To: bayourod
>>>>>>>All the studies I've seen were commissioned by local governments to be used to prove that immigrants pay less in taxes than they receive in benefits; for the purpose of trying to get federal funds to make up the difference. They ignore the value of the immigrants.<<<<<<<<

More open borders nonsense. Most of the "value" of the immigrants goes to the immigrants themselves. The National Research Council conducted a study in the late '90s and found that the increase in the GNP attributable to all immigrants, legal and illegal, was on the order of $10 billion, a trivial sum in an economy of $8 trillion. And this sum was outweighed by the fiscal costs imposed by immigration.

>>>>>>>>If you doubt their value, try going one week without driving on any roads built in part by illegal immigrants; eating any food picked, plucked, processed, cooked, served or transported by illegal laborers; using any appliances, equipment, or vehicles which have component parts made in jobbers' shops employing illegal immigrants; entering any building or house built in part by illegal laborers, etc...<<<<<<<<<

More nonsense. Who did all these jobs before illegals did? Americans, at higher wages. Who will do these jobs after illegal immigration is cut off? Americans, at higher wages.

34 posted on 12/15/2004 8:11:55 PM PST by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: Thorin
Most of the "value" of the immigrants goes to the immigrants themselves.

Yeah like all that food and medicine they ingest. They selfishly pay money for rent so they can live in AMERICAN slum apartments they stole from the honest American pimps and dealers. end of sarcasm

Fact is illegals get jobs and pay State, Federal, unemployment insurance, disability, and Social Security just like everybody else. They fear using those programs or receiving the tax refunds they qualify for because they do not want to be returned to their hellhole homeland. Most businesses that employ 18 MILLION illegals are legitimate businesses that pay the employer share of State, Federal, unemployment insurance, disability, and Social Security just like most every business.

The businesses who do not want these workers to become legal workers are the one who are paying under the table and exploiting these workers. They are on your side.

171 posted on 12/15/2004 11:49:37 PM PST by Once-Ler ("He lives in Madison, WI. No wonder he thinks Bush is a conservative!")
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