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To: Once-Ler
I have found that everyone, most of the time, if not all the time, looks out for their own. Ask any Guatemalan who gets caught working in Mexico.
What we're seeing is California with the highest percentage of immigrants and illegal aliens going upside down on their budget. This bothers a lot of people, including me as I get a pension from there.
With that said, I will be the first to admit if I were born in a third world cesspool would do anything; including lying, stealing, cheating to get the he11 out there. At least I would hope I would have that much gumption.
Even the liberal state of Washington is doing all they can to keep out immigrants, including regulating the orchards out of business. Being Demo's their just slicker about it. The numbers just don't add up to continue our high levels of immigration. Specially with the "free trade" crowd in control. I saw the Kaiser Steel plant in Fontana, packed up bolt by blot and shipped to China and two plants in Burlington, Washington also packed and shipped off to China. All these facilities paid decent money, and the last time I checked back in Cali, few of the steel workers found jobs paying any where near what Kaiser paid.
286 posted on 12/17/2004 12:50:29 AM PST by investigateworld (( ))
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To: investigateworld
This bothers a lot of people, including me as I get a pension from there.

How is your pension affected by the number of illegals? The state can't refuse to pay your pension. This doesn't make sense to me. Can you explain it??

Even the liberal state of Washington is doing all they can to keep out immigrants. Being Demo's their just slicker about it.

Then you are getting what you want from the rat party. I don't know if you have to register under a particular party in advance of voting (In Wisconsin we let anyone vote whenever) but you may want to switch parties before it is too late to vote for those patriotic rats who understand sovereignty.

The numbers just don't add up to continue our high levels of immigration. Specially with the "free trade" crowd in control.

I understand that this is your opinion, but I don't agree. I think we need a lot more immigration. I see no downside of admitting workers to come in and work, somebody has got to pay for all the people on pensions.

I saw the Kaiser Steel plant in Fontana, packed up bolt by blot and shipped to China and two plants in Burlington, Washington also packed and shipped off to China. All these facilities paid decent money, and the last time I checked back in Cali, few of the steel workers found jobs paying any where near what Kaiser paid.

Think maybe they packed up their bags because China has cheap workers plus they don't have to pay SS, unemployment insurance, federal, state, workman's comp, etcetera? Do you think America is better off with businesses that stay in the US or move to China. Do you think removing 10 million people from the work pool will drive up wages?

Wages can only go up so far before a business man who is risking his money creating jobs decides it is more profitable to close the business and invest elsewhere.

300 posted on 12/17/2004 3:46:28 AM PST by Once-Ler ("He lives in Madison, WI. No wonder he thinks Bush is a conservative!")
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