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Morton Kondracke: Immigration reform is a worthy issue for Bush (CITIZENSHIP for illegal aliens)
Naples Daily News ^ | 12/14/2004 | Morton Kondracke

Posted on 12/15/2004 7:26:47 PM PST by nanak

If President Bush is going to keep his promise to spend political capital on a bold second-term agenda, he should include comprehensive immigration reform that offers deserving illegal immigrants a path to citizenship.

To do so, he'd have to face down a noisy, but not large, anti-immigrant claque in the Republican Party that's determined to use the threat of terrorism as an excuse to, in effect, erect "Stay Out!" signs at the U.S. border, even to restrict legal immigration.

In reality, creating a process to legalize illegals would help homeland security by allowing law enforcement agencies to concentrate on border security and tracking down criminals and potential terrorists — rather than chasing after millions of ordinary undocumented aliens, especially Hispanics.

This logic seems to have impressed border-state Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., who has told immigrant-rights groups that comprehensive immigration reform is his top priority for the next Congress.

McCain has begun working on reform with Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., who favors granting legal status — and, eventually, citizenship — to illegals who have been in the country for several years, have jobs, pay taxes, maintain clean records, learn English and pay a fine.

Bush has a record of favoring immigration reform, but it remains unclear how far he's willing to go with it. In 2001, he seemed to favor a process that would allow illegals to earn their way to citizenship. This year, he's advocated a worker-permit program that may or may not lead to permanent legal status.

It's a good sign that the administration worked to exclude language sought by House Judiciary Chairman Jim Sensenbrenner, R-Wis., from the intelligence reform legislation that recently passed Congress.

Bush will face a new test when Sensenbrenner's measure — which would bar states from giving drivers' licenses to illegal aliens — comes back for consideration next year. He and other restrictionists argued that, because some of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorists gained access to aircraft using drivers' licenses as identification, all illegal aliens should be denied them.

But this is simply a device to make life more difficult for illegal aliens. The 9/11 terrorists, or any terrorists, just as easily could have used their passports — or could use phony passports, or drivers' licenses — to board aircraft.

The commission that investigated the 9/11 disaster specifically declared that its report called for "strong federal standards for the issuance of birth certificates and other sources of identification, such as drivers' licenses, to avoid the identity fraud that terrorists can exploit. We did not make any recommendations about licenses for undocumented aliens. That issue did not arise in our investigation, as all hijackers entered the United States with documentation ... (and) were therefore 'legal immigrants' at the time when they received their drivers' licenses."

To foster humane and effective immigration reform, Bush will need to re-educate the public, which tends to hold (according to polls) that America would be better off with fewer immigrants, both legal and illegal.

In fact, most serious studies show that immigrants are a net asset to the country. Illegal immigrants tend to take menial jobs that Americans won't. They pay taxes. But because they live in the legal shadows, they often get exploited by unscrupulous employers.

On Sept. 6, 2001, with Mexican President Vicente Fox at his side, Bush said, "There are many in our country who are undocumented, and we want to make sure their work is legal."

Soon after, in a White House briefing, officials told immigrant-rights groups that the administration leaned toward allowing illegals to earn their way toward citizenship.

But all work on immigration reform stopped after Sept. 11. It resurfaced this year as Bush worked to expand his support among Hispanic voters. At one point, he called for a work-permit system for illegals and told the League of United Latin American Citizens, "We will keep working to make this nation a welcoming place for Hispanic people, a land of opportunity para todos (for all) who live here in America."

On the other hand, apparently in a bid to appease restrictionists in the GOP, administration officials also indicated that workers would have to return to their home countries when their work permits expired. This provision almost surely would discourage illegals from signing up.

Though analysts differ on the quality of exit-poll data on Hispanics, the Election Day numbers do indicate that Bush gained anywhere from five to nine points among Hispanics. Future growth for the GOP in this demographic depends upon who calls the shots on policy — Bush and McCain, or restrictionists such as Reps. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., Elton Gallegly, D-Calif., and Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif.

Even though Tancredo and company get wide publicity — and have been aided recently by anti-immigration television and radio hosts, such as CNN's Lou Dobbs — their legislative power in Congress has actually been waning.

In 1995, by a vote of 257-173, the House passed an amendment offered by Gallegly that would have required public schools to expel the children of illegal immigrants.

By contrast, this May, the House defeated, by a vote of 331-88, a Rohrabacher proposed amendment that would have prevented hospitals from being reimbursed for medical care provided to undocumented immigrants unless they reported them to the Homeland Security Department.

On the other hand, this November, Arizona voters approved ballot Proposition 200, a measure designed to squeeze illegal immigration, by almost 60 percent. (Its implementation is being held up in court.)

McCain cited Prop. 200 — plus vigilante action by Arizonans against illegals and the deaths of illegal border-crossers in the Arizona deserts — as his motivation for making immigration reform his top priority.

In the 108th Congress, McCain sponsored, along with Reps. Jim Kolbe, R-Ariz., and Jeff Flake, R-Ariz., legislation similar to Kennedy's that would have granted a path to citizenship to qualified illegals.

Kennedy's legislation, however, also would have expedited citizenship for the spouses and children of legal immigrants, clearing backlogs of five to seven years, depending on the country of origin.

It's not clear whether Bush will propose his own legislation next year or wait for Congress to act and get involved, as he often does, when House and Senate conferees are hammering out final legislation.

On this issue, though, having Bush's leadership early on would be welcome. He could also order the Homeland Security Department to use judgment before it summarily expels illegals who are parents of small children or locks up asylum-seekers whether they present a terrorist threat or not.

Restrictionists will charge that "amnesty" simply encourages illegal immigration. Bush can respond that "earned legalization" recognizes the reality that 9 million illegal aliens are not leaving — and that authorities should stop chasing them and focus on terrorists.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; bush43; bushamnesty; immigrantlist; immigration; immigrationreform; kennedy; kondracke; mccain
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To: bayourod
Do you want your children or grand children to pluck chickens or collect garbage or clean bathrooms or dig irrigation ditches all their lives?

Why do you hate Americans who would do these jobs?

61 posted on 12/15/2004 8:39:38 PM PST by primeval patriot (Let me off at Archer, and I'll walk down to Greenwood)
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To: bayourod
If you doubt their value, try going one week without driving on any roads built in part by illegal immigrants; eating any food picked, plucked, processed, cooked, served or transported by illegal laborers; using any appliances, equipment, or vehicles which have component parts made in jobbers' shops employing illegal immigrants; entering any building or house built in part by illegal laborers, etc...

Nice La Raza talking points, bayourod.

The vast majority of Americans realize the contributions of illegal immigrants and don't consider them to be a problem.

If you truly believe that, then you are truly delusional.

62 posted on 12/15/2004 8:40:46 PM PST by usadave
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To: Fatalis

Great comments in your post #40.


63 posted on 12/15/2004 8:46:26 PM PST by usadave
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To: Fatalis
"Legalizing illegal aliens always penalizes those who've tried to enter legally"

No it doesn't. That's silly Buchanan type propaganda.

The two programs are totally seperate. Some want to immigrate to America, others just want to temporarily work here then go back home.

64 posted on 12/15/2004 8:49:41 PM PST by bayourod (Our troops are already securing our borders against terrorists. They're killing them in Iraq.)
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To: usadave; COEXERJ145; jveritas; bayourod
The vast majority of Americans realize the contributions of illegal immigrants and don't consider them to be a problem.

Gang Violence, Drug dealing, wreaking financial havoc on our HOSPITALS/SCHOOLS, clogged freeways, crumbling infrastructure...

We the AMERICAN SHEEPLE greatly admire the above mentioned contributions of ILLEGAL ALIENS.

65 posted on 12/15/2004 8:52:08 PM PST by nanak (Tom Tancredo 2008:Last Hope to Save America)
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To: COEXERJ145
Of course that all depends on Hillary. If she runs, the Buchanan Brigades will vote for her in mass since she is singing their immigration song.

According to bayourod, Buchanan usually garners only about 1/4 of one percent of the vote. So even if all of Buchanan's supporters vote for Hillary, it probably won't help her much.

66 posted on 12/15/2004 8:52:20 PM PST by usadave
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To: nanak

And of course your solution is to turn Mexico and every other Spanish speaking part of the world into radioactive ash. And while we're at it, I'm sure you'd like to turn any nation that has a Muslim population into ash as well.


68 posted on 12/15/2004 8:54:14 PM PST by COEXERJ145
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To: bayourod

although we do need to use the terrorism issue to push immigration reform, it is sad that we need to. Shouldn't it be enough that people are breaking the law for immigration reform to be passed? Serioulsly, even without 9/11, there was still a problem. still, if we need to push the terrorism issue (which is a good enough reason anyway) to get to a just end, then so be it.


69 posted on 12/15/2004 8:54:27 PM PST by Mike10542
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To: COEXERJ145
And of course your solution is to turn Mexico and every other Spanish speaking part of the world into radioactive ash. And while we're at it, I'm sure you'd like to turn any nation that has a Muslim population into ash as well.

Don't confuse SPANISH SPEAKING CATHOLICS with ISLAMOFACISTS!!!!!!

70 posted on 12/15/2004 8:56:07 PM PST by nanak (Tom Tancredo 2008:Last Hope to Save America)
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To: Budweiser
"You seem to favor felonious activity over enforcement of existing laws"

Wrong. I support President Bush's immigration policies which include a guest worker program and increased resources for border control.

Unfortunately some people on FR think that anyone who doesn't call President Bush a traitor who supports open borders, must be an employer of illegal immigrants.

71 posted on 12/15/2004 8:57:42 PM PST by bayourod (Our troops are already securing our borders against terrorists. They're killing them in Iraq.)
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To: COEXERJ145
And of course your solution is to turn Mexico and every other Spanish speaking part of the world into radioactive ash.

Hyperbole alert.

72 posted on 12/15/2004 8:58:04 PM PST by primeval patriot (Let me off at Archer, and I'll walk down to Greenwood)
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To: nanak

Since you obviously cannot read, go back and read what I wrote but this time very slowly. I didn't say they were one in the same. I said you'd be happy to expend the U.S. nuclear arsenal exterminating Spanish speakers and Muslims.


73 posted on 12/15/2004 9:00:00 PM PST by COEXERJ145
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To: nanak
"Gang Violence, Drug dealing, wreaking financial havoc on our HOSPITALS/SCHOOLS, clogged freeways, crumbling infrastructure... "

Is that your stereotype of all Mexicans or just the illegal ones?
Are you saying that legal immigrants don't have babies, clog freeways, use hospitals or schools, crumble your infrastructure, etc...?

74 posted on 12/15/2004 9:03:02 PM PST by bayourod (Our troops are already securing our borders against terrorists. They're killing them in Iraq.)
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To: bayourod
The two programs are totally seperate. Some want to immigrate to America, others just want to temporarily work here then go back home.

You need to do your homework.

Under President Reagan when illegal aliens were legalized they blew past immigration caps that had kept out potential immigrants who were obeying our laws.

Under President Clinton when illegal aliens with employer sponsors were legalized, they took immigration slots away from people waiting in line.

Under the Bush proposal illegal aliens who are also working illegally are already matched with an employer, giving them an unfair advantage over those who didn't enter and work illegally and aren't yet matched with an employer.

A fair solution is to meet our labor needs with one line for all potential guest workers, in their home countries. That way illegal aliens won't be rewarded for lawbreaking.

By the way, you left off half of my quote: "Legalizing illegal aliens always penalizes those who've tried to enter legally, and has always lead to more illegal aliens and more exploitation."

Despite the amnesties of Presidents Reagan and Clinton the numbers of illegal aliens in America has climbed steadily. That's because rewarding lawbreakers leads to more lawbreakers. The amnesty of President Bush would be no different.

75 posted on 12/15/2004 9:04:14 PM PST by Fatalis
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To: bayourod; Budweiser
Wrong. I support President Bush's immigration policies which include a guest worker program and increased resources for border control.

Main Entry: trea·son

Pronunciation: 'trE-z&n

Function: noun

Etymology: Middle English tresoun, from Old French traison, from Latin tradition-, traditio act of handing over, from tradere to hand over, betray -- more at TRAITOR

1 : the betrayal of a trust : TREACHERY

2 : the offense of attempting by overt acts to overthrow the government of the state to which the offender owes allegiance or to kill or personally injure the sovereign or the sovereign's family

76 posted on 12/15/2004 9:04:42 PM PST by nanak (Tom Tancredo 2008:Last Hope to Save America)
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To: bayourod

Answer to Illegal Immigration= DETECT, DETAIN, DEPORT

Supporting illegal immigration will destroy this party. The vast majority of Americans are opposed to amnesty, or "guest worker" legalization.

I'm not looking forward to having a pro-amnesty RINO running against an anti-amnesty Democrat like Hillary. Do you think illegal alien amnesty is a winning political issue?


77 posted on 12/15/2004 9:05:04 PM PST by nj26
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To: bayourod

"Is that your stereotype of all Mexicans or just the illegal ones?"

This isn't just about Mexican immigrants. It's also about illegal North Africans and Middle Easterners that are overtaking the northeastern states. I can't fathom an open border with Syria or Algeria.


78 posted on 12/15/2004 9:07:00 PM PST by nj26
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To: bayourod
Do you want your children or grand children to pluck chickens or collect garbage or clean bathrooms or dig irrigation ditches all their lives?

But you want your neighbors' children to have such a life instead of letting immigrants who appreciate such jobs from do them?

Unbelievable. Said like a white "Massa" in 1850 Alabama.

"Yassa boss, we illegal immigrants do appreciates such jobs! Yassa boss!"

80 posted on 12/15/2004 9:14:54 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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