Posted on 12/14/2004 3:46:32 PM PST by Andika
TELEGRAPH ONLINE By Charles Moore The push for a religious hatred law here is an attempt to advance the legal privilege that Muslims claim for Islam. True, Muslim leaders are happy that the same protection should be extended to other religions in this country. But to a modern liberal society which claims the freedom to attack all beliefs, this should be no comfort. It says a good deal about the quality of churchmen and politicians in Britain that the most prominent opponent of the Bill is Mr Bean. The Archbishop of Canterbury is more or less invisible. The Government is on the side of repression. Why is it that so many people resent religion and turn against it? Surely it is because of its coercive force, Under Islam, Christians and Jews, born into their religion, have slightly more rights than apostates. They are dhimmis, second-class citizens who must pay the jiyza, a sort of poll tax, because of their beliefs. Their life is hard. In Saudi, they cannot worship in public at all, or be ministered to by clergy even in private. In Egypt, no Christian university is permitted. In Iran, Christians cannot say their liturgy in the national language. In almost all Muslim countries, they are there on sufferance and, increasingly, because of radical Islamism, not even on that.
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someone has to post the Christmas turkey scene.
Awwwww, the poor throat-slitters. They're sooooo sensitive!
"It's a religion of peace, and we will kill you to prove it!"
I don't like when people badmouth Christ or Christianity. Yet, I don't like it when I cannot express my opinions regarding other beliefs either.
Neither do I...but I'll defend to the death their right to do so. Anything less means the America my daughter grows up in will be that much worse than the one I grew up in. Anything less is less than my daughter deserves.
A bit off topic but... try substituting LIBERAL for Muslim in the following sentences: I was wryly amused that virtually none of the muslim posters addressed the issues I was discussing. Instead they chose to be scornful, suggest I was a liar or imparting false information. (I expected this, of course.) In truth it really underlined even more forcibly the very point I had been attempting to make - that Islam appeared to be intolerant and beyond criticism. Almost every posting went off at a tangent
Defamation of mohammed... let's try. mohammedsucks mohammedsucks mohammedsucks mohammedf@@@@@hismother oh wait mohammed has no mother mohammed is gay mohammed plays with his little tiny minute dinky.... Ah, you get the point.
Once it hits them that it means they can't bash Christians anymore, they'll change their tune.
Of course, they could conveniently overlook the Christian-bashing, couldn't they?
Mr. Bean Laden
Christianity is strong enough to withstand criticism. It's been 'vetted' so to speak. Islam is just beginning to encounter real criticism and it can't handle it.
You have offended us! Allah shall visit a fatwah upon you infidel! We shall cry tears of humiliation like unto a river which shall surely drown you! Allah and his soggy feet shall stomp you like the grapes in the winepress of the caterers of the 72 virgins!
Yeah.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Good one.
>Mr. Bean Laden
Love it! If only the "authentic" one was also able to add to life in any way - rather than subtracting from it!
>"It's a religion of peace, and we will kill you to prove it!"
Very much the prevailing atittude. The hypocrisy is staggering. Saudis - fervent Muslims for five days of the weke before they climb into their Mercedes and zip across the causeway into "liberal" Bahrein to whoop it up! I see women are still struggling to be permitted to drive! Only a couple of examples, of course.....
>Christianity is strong enough to withstand criticism
The profundity of these seven words is truly immense. As with individuals, it is those with the not-dared-to-be-accessed doubts somewhere deep within that creates a sense of unrecognised insecurity which, in turn, provokes an aggressive, out-of-proportion response to even a hint of criticism - as if admitting there is a hairline crack in the plaster
would then bring the entire wall crumbling! Those with a strong belief in their faith may not favour criticism, of course, and they will put forward their point of view. But they do some with a sense of invulnerability, aware that other opinions are unlikely to shake that assurance. They are highly unlikely to snarl, lash out, throat-slit or impose a fatwah!
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