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To: ancient_geezer

Please note that under the APT Plan the responsibility for regulating government spending remains as before with the voters.


13 posted on 12/14/2004 11:47:20 AM PST by tvn
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To: tvn

"Please note that under the APT Plan the responsibility for regulating government spending remains as before with the voters."

Do you prefer to keep the voter ignorant of the scope of government spending? Wouldn't the voter become more anti business and anti capitalism if all they see is the tax passed along in higher costs? Wouldn't they blame the private industry more with the government cost hidden in prices? Think about how oil companies take the blame for higher gas prices, yet what percentage of that per gallon price is tax?

By taxing transactions you are adding a burden to the cost of doing business in the US. Why would you support a system that gives a competitive edge to foriegn businesses? How is this good for the american citizen?


14 posted on 12/14/2004 1:00:45 PM PST by CSM
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To: tvn

Please note that under the APT Plan the responsibility for regulating government spending remains as before with the voters.

Only with all of the voters blind to the costs of government, instead of just half of them totally ignorant of the real burden that largess charges against the entire society.

 

The Honorable James DeMint (R-SC)
United States House of Representatives
APRIL 5, 2001

Today, the bottom 60% of the electorate perceive little to no "Individual Income Tax" burden,(in many cases even a handout)

From, Effective Federal Tax Rates 1979-2001

Effective Individual Federal Income Tax Rate (Percent of gross family income)
Income Category 1979 1981 1983 1985 1987 1989 1991 1993 1995
1997

1999

2001
Lowest Quintile 0.0 0.5 0.4 0.5 -0.6 -1.6 -1.6 -2.3 -4.4 -5.2 -5.2 -5.6
Second Quintile 4.1 4.8 3.8 4.0 3.2 2.9 2.9 2.3 2.0 1.8 1.7 0.3
Middle Quintile 7.5 8.3 6.7 6.6 5.8 6.0 5.8 5.4 5.3 5.6 5.0 3.8

 

encouraging 70% of the voting public to clamor for more from government looking for the top 30% of income earners/producers to foot the bill. That perception will do nothing but grow exponentially stronger by eliminating even more voters from substantive and conscious participation in the tax system under that faux 0.3% APT.

So many Americans paying little or no federal taxes makes for a natural spending constituency. It's like me in the restaurant: What do I care about extravagance if you're footing the bill?
--
Walter Williams

To remove perception of the tax burdens of the individual, is to remove the goad which assures accountability of government to the electorate.

The siren call for representation without taxation is the formula that got us where we are at today. The ability to hide or disguise taxation from the view of large sectors of the electorate allows the Congress to get away with the creation of the evergrowing monster that it fosters.

Liberty and freedom have a price, responsibility. If that price is avoided or not perceived there are no brakes on the growth of government, the ultimate result is the end of freedom through creeping socialism.

15 posted on 12/14/2004 1:36:41 PM PST by ancient_geezer
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To: tvn
tvn, AG is using an old trick here. If you want to skew the distribution of federal tax burdens, only talk about income taxes, even though the majority of Americans pay more in payroll taxes and a large portion of them pay more in excise taxes than they do income taxes. He is only showing income taxes because it best suits his argument (it's the most progressive). When you total up the entire federal tax burden, the Total Effective Federal Tax Rate for the lowest quintile is 5.4%. That's a lot different than -5.6%.
16 posted on 12/14/2004 6:30:00 PM PST by Your Nightmare
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