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To: 26lemoncharlie
After the murder of Van Goegh by the Muslims for his movie concerning the extreme treatment of Women, the Dutch People, namely the Conservative Dutch Political Party, the largest in the nation, was shut down. By who, The activist judges of course. The Judges stated that by demanding that muslims no longer be allowed to enter Holland, The Conservative Political Party was Racist and that thier demand was a Hate Crime!!

You cannot mandate that two people love each other but you can prohibit calls for vigilantism and incitement to violence (your free speech has limits just as you cannot yell FIRE in a crowded movie theater or urge the assassination of the President).

As an aside, it is much smarter of Holland NOT to outlaw Islam as that is the clear sign that all Imam agree triggers the way for a jihad (holy war) against a nation. One of Mohammed's nasty "built in" defense mechanisms (another being no reformation movement allowed, since Mohammed was the last prophet).

82 posted on 12/13/2004 1:56:15 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: weegee

You cannot mandate that two people love each other but you can prohibit calls for vigilantism and incitement to violence (your free speech has limits just as you cannot yell FIRE in a crowded movie theater or urge the assassination of the President

Love and Hate are Human Emotions, You are not going to legislate someone to Love or to Hate, or to Not Love and Not to Hate. These emotions are part of everyones character that they are Born with. Limits of speech limits ones expressions, but will not limit the emotional love or hate regardless of the legislation.

In fact legislating the control of emotional behaviors can lead to an increased degree or Intesity of Love or Hate. E.G. The Love of Romeo and Juliette. The Nazi's Hatred of the Christian Religion and the Jewish People.

You cannot mandate that two people love each other but you can prohibit calls for vigilantism and incitement to violence (your free speech has limits just as you cannot yell FIRE in a crowded movie theater or urge the assassination of the President

Prohibiting calls for vigilantism and incitement to violence. There may be laws against this but more than once in American History they have both been invoked.

Vigilantism was very prevelent during the settling of the American West and worked very well in come areas, San Francisco being one. Incitement to Violence as Al Frankens call for demonstrations, I believe in Portland or some other NW city just before the Presidential Election is and should against the law but again, the Emotion is still there!

Yelling Fire in a Theatre is not even within the same realm of the Love/Hate Emotion. That is the old Liberal comparison that many fall for, sorry!! Urge the Assasination of a President, some have so the Emotion is still there.
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As an aside, it is much smarter of Holland NOT to outlaw Islam as that is the clear sign that all Imam agree triggers the way for a jihad (holy war) against a nation. One of Mohammed's nasty "built in" defense mechanisms (another being no reformation movement allowed, since Mohammed was the last prophet).

So it is smarter to allow more of the people who are apt to kill you into your Home?? Submit or Die!! Well Pal I don't know where your from, but we Americans don't submit that easily.

You may pull your BS for so long but it will catch to you and woe be unto you. If the Muslims start there crap in this country I can Gurantee you 3 things, 1. The Muslims will leave -- 2, They will leave Verticle or 3. they will leave Horizontal, how is up to them.

The Dutch are not bending, they want the Muslims out and so do the Swedes.


104 posted on 12/13/2004 8:53:44 PM PST by 26lemoncharlie (Defending America)
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