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To: IronJack
[ In other words, if our rights come from God, we don't have to ask the State for permission to exercise them. If not, then the State IS God. ]

Thats what I mean, also, by rights vs. privledges..
I think thats why the founders used the word rights instead of the word privledges expicitly for that purpose.. The two words mean such different things.. Amazing that lawyers who make their living parseing words would miss this.. And the difference in the meaning of these two words exactly displays the difference in the American political system and ALL other political systems.. to this day..

Maybe the American system is indeed a Theocracy..
For if, our rights don't come from God, then who.?.
Of Course they do come from God.. its just matter of which God.. Keeping in mind that the "State itself " can be deemed a God.. or the Enviorment(Gaia), or Humanity itself, or so many other pseudo-Gods.. or Demi-Gods.. There are proponets for all those and more.. Maybe the founders were not wise to not specify WHICH God.. Unless they felt that if we got confused on who God was, as a people, it was already too late.. In my way of thinking they would be correct and barring some heroic re-arraignment(revolution) we're "Plucked" like a turkey for thanksgiving..

96 posted on 05/06/2005 11:09:01 AM PDT by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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To: hosepipe
Maybe the American system is indeed a Theocracy..

No. A theocracy is a system of government ruled by the church. Ours is a system of government founded on biblical principles, but ruled by the people themselves. Thus, we have no one to blame but ourselves when it goes terribly, horribly wrong.

97 posted on 05/06/2005 11:36:41 AM PDT by IronJack
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