[IronJack]

Religion establishes a creed. A creed demands accountability and (in most cases) some degree of self-denial. A polity rooted in a creed demands similar degrees of accountability and self-restraint, neither of which are considered virtues by the self-indulgent, materialistic crowd that dominates our culture these days.

So it is only logical that they would try to fabricate a polity founded on something other than religion, thereby escaping the consequent obligations. What better way to negate the influence of religion in our nation's creed than by denying that God has ever played a role in its formation, notwithstanding overwhelming evidence to the contrary? If they thought it would clear the way for a few more Mazola parties, they'd deny that the Founders spoke English.

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[ What better way to negate the influence of religion in our nation's creed than by denying that God has ever played a role in its formation, notwithstanding overwhelming evidence to the contrary? ]

True.. but I responded to you specifically on the "rights" as opposed to "privileges" which I posted about many times.. and feel that that is germ of where America seems to be ignorant.. and is the/a source of the polarization in this country..

Wanted your thoughts on that.. really I wanted your thoughts on whether it lies at the base of our problems, in your view.. or is ancillary.. I see it as the source of Americas obvious confusion on what freedom "IS"...