Posted on 12/10/2004 3:38:41 PM PST by Ed Current
Pro
http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/robert_ingersoll/god_in_constitution.html
http://biblia.com/911/america4.htm
Con
http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml%3Fi=20050221&s=allen
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Our Founding Fathers and the Ten Commandments
We have staked the whole future of American civilization, not upon the power of government, far from it. Weve staked the future of all our political institutions upon our capacity
to sustain ourselves according to the Ten Commandments of God.
James Madison, 1778 to the General Assembly of the State of Virginia
The Law given from Sinai [The Ten Commandments] was a civil and municipal as well as a moral and religious code.
John Quincy Adams. Letters to his son. p. 61
All the miseries and evils which men suffer from vice, crime, ambition, injustice, oppression, slavery
and war, proceed from their despising or neglecting the precepts contained in the Bible.
Noah Webster. History. p. 339
AND FURTHERMORE: The Constitutions declares itself to be in support of ALL previous originating debts and documents (ART VI IIRC)... the DoI being one... So the language of the DoI is inherited.
Thanks for a good post.
Christianity is in the Constitution
Dave Miller, Ph.D.
Those who insist that America was not intended to be a Christian nation point to the obvious absence of specific directives regarding Christianity in the federal Constitution. The popular propaganda since the 1960s has been that the irreligious Framers did not want the nation to retain any attachment to the Christian religion. Such an assertion is a monstrous perversion of historical fact. The truth of the matter is that they were fearful of the potential interference by the federal government in its ability to place restrictions on the free exercise of the Christian religion. Consequently, they desired that the specifics of religion be left up to the discretion of the several states.
Nevertheless, we must not think for a moment that the federal Framers did not sanction the nations intimate affiliation with Christianity, or that they attempted to keep religion out of the Constitution. On the contrary, the Christian religion is inherently assumed and implicitly present in the Constitution. In fact, the United States Constitution contains a direct reference to Jesus Christ! Consider three proofs for these contentions (See Constitution of the United..., 1789).
First, consider the meaning of the First Amendment to the Constitution: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.... We have been told that, by establishment of religion, the Framers meant for the government to maintain complete religious neutrality and that pluralism ought to prevail, i.e., that all religions (whether Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, or Hinduism), though equally tolerated, must not be given any acknowledgement in the public sector. But such an outlandish claim is absolutely false. All one has to do is to go directly to the delegate discussions pertaining to the wording of the First Amendment in order to ascertain the context and original intent of the final wording (Annals of Congress, 1789, pp. 440ff.). The facts of the matter are that by their use of the term religion, the Framers had in mind the several Protestant denominations. Their concern was to prevent any single Christian denomination from being elevated above the others and made the State religiona circumstance that the Founders had endured under British rule when the Anglican Church was the state religion of the thirteen colonies. They further sought to leave the individual States free to make their own determinations with regard to religious (i.e., Christian) matters (cf. Story, 1833, 3.1873:730-731). The Father of the Bill of Rights, George Mason, actually proposed the following wording for the First Amendment, which demonstrates the context of their wording:
[A]ll men have an equal, natural and unalienable right to the free exercise of religion, according to the dictates of conscience; and that no particular sect or society of Christians ought to be favored or established by law in preference to others (as quoted in Rowland, 1892, 1:244, emp. added).
By prohibiting the free exercise thereof, the Framers intended to convey that the federal government was not to interfere with the free and public practice of the Christian religionthe very thing that the courts have been doing since the 1960s.
Second, consider the wording of a sentence from Article I, Section 7 of the Constitution: If any Bill shall not be returned by the President within ten Days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to him, the Same shall be a Law, in like Manner as if he had signed it.... Sundays excepted? The government shuts down and does not transact business on Sunday? Why? If this provision had been made in respect of Jews, the Constitution would have read Saturdays excepted. If provision had been made for Muslims, the Constitution would have read Fridays excepted. If the Founders had intended to encourage a day of inactivity for the government without regard to any one religion, they could have chosen Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, or Thursday. Instead, the federal Constitution reads Sundays exceptedproving conclusively that America was Christian in its orientation and that the Framers themselves shared the Christian worldview and gave political recognition to and accommodation of that fact.
Third, if these two allusions to Christianity are not enough, consider yet another. Immediately after Article VII, the Constitution closes with the following words:
Done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven and of the Independence of the United States of America the Twelfth....
Did you catch it? Their work was done in the Year of our Lord. The Christian world dates all of human history in terms of the birth of Christ. B.C. means before Christ, and A.D. is the abbreviation for the Latin words anno Domini, meaning year of our Lord. If the Framers were interested in being pluralistic, multi-cultural, and politically correct, they would have refrained from using the B.C./A.D. designation. Or they would have used the religionless designations C.E., Common Era, and B.C.E., Before the Common Era (see Common Era, 2008). In so doing, they would have avoided offending Jews, atheists, agnostics, and humanists. Or they could have used A.H. (anno hegiraewhich means in the year of the Hijrah and refers to Muhammads flight from Mecca in A.D. 622), the date used by Muslims as the commencement date for the Islamic calendar. Instead, the Framers chose to utilize the dating method that indicated the worldview they shared. Whats more, their reference to our Lord does not refer to a generic deity, nor does it refer even to God the Father. It refers to God the Sonan explicit reference to Jesus Christ. Make no mistake: the Constitution of the United States contains an explicit reference to Jesus Christnot Allah, Buddha, Muhammad, nor the gods of Hindus or Native Americans!
Lets get this straight: The Declaration of Independence contains four allusions to the God of the Bible. The U.S. Constitution contains allusions to the freedom to practice the Christian religion unimpeded, the significance and priority of Sunday worship, as well as the place of Jesus Christ in history. So, according to the thinking of the ACLU and a host of liberal educators, politicians, and judges, the Constitution isunconstitutional! Go figure.
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