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Congress bans lighters from airliners
Seattle PI ^ | Dec 8, 2004 | Leslie Miller

Posted on 12/08/2004 2:40:01 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

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To: CaptainJustice
Banning a fire-staring device that contains combustable material from an airplane is not tantamount to strip searches and nudity.

Let's see no little knives, no "fire-starting devices", what's next? Personally, those items are part of my urban survival kit. You have obviously never seen the movie "Alive!"

When OBL uses his bomb and the Road Warrior Days come, we'll see who was in the Boy Scouts and who was at home playing Atari.

121 posted on 12/08/2004 3:59:16 PM PST by Smogger
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To: CaptainJustice
There is no good reason to have a lighter on a plane, not a single one.

Yes, there is. It's called LAYOVERS and SMOKING DESIGNATED AREAS. When someone takes a long flight, it is legitimate for them to have smoking effects on them when they land and can go somewhere to smoke.

Just because you can't figure out that simple reality doesn't mean you're right.

122 posted on 12/08/2004 4:02:13 PM PST by Prime Choice (I like Democrats, too. Let's exchange recipes.)
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To: Prime Choice
There is no good reason to have a lighter on a plane, not a single one.

From my understanding of the rules, the is absolutely no good reason to have a penis on bard a plane either...scary, isn't it?
123 posted on 12/08/2004 4:04:49 PM PST by NonLinear ("If not instantaneous, then extrordinarily fast" - Galileo re. speed of light. circa 1600)
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To: AdamSelene235
Uh, if you're traveling to the developing world and don't want to check luggage.

If you are going to the developing world, just bum a light when you get there.

124 posted on 12/08/2004 4:06:06 PM PST by WildTurkey
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To: Bluegrass Conservative
Either wait until you get your baggage, or if you're jonesing so bad on a layover, buy a cheap Bic.

So let me make sure I've got this insanity right:

  1. Citizen has to surrender lighter at security gate so citizen can't board plane with lighter (which would be oh-so-hazardous).
  2. Citizen goes to shop inside airport and buys a "cheap Bic."
  3. Suddenly citizen can now board said plane WITH said forbidden lighter (which is really and truly dangerous, you know).

Ultimately, said citizen is out a couple of dollars, still in possession of a lighter, and there's absolutely no additional security benefit. But you feel safer.

My God...you people amaze me.

125 posted on 12/08/2004 4:07:59 PM PST by Prime Choice (I like Democrats, too. Let's exchange recipes.)
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To: WildTurkey
If you are going to the developing world, just bum a light when you get there.

From whom? Nobody will have lighters or matches at the airport. And the vendors won't be able to sell such items if the neo-fascists think their plan through.

126 posted on 12/08/2004 4:09:04 PM PST by Prime Choice (I like Democrats, too. Let's exchange recipes.)
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To: NonLinear
"There is no good reason to have a lighter on a plane, not a single one."

Do NOT attribute that asinine quote to me. I think these jackwits are the height of stupidity. The last thing I want is anyone to think I'm parroting their asinine bullcrap.

127 posted on 12/08/2004 4:10:24 PM PST by Prime Choice (I like Democrats, too. Let's exchange recipes.)
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To: Prime Choice
I think these jackwits are the height of stupidity.

LOL!

128 posted on 12/08/2004 4:11:43 PM PST by Smogger
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To: WildTurkey
If you are going to the developing world, just bum a light when you get there

Yeah, and a pocket knife and clean needles and ....and ..and

129 posted on 12/08/2004 4:15:10 PM PST by AdamSelene235
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To: Smogger
Hi Smogger-

"...those items are part of my urban survival kit..."



There are certain things that all adults should have available to them wherever they might find themselves. Emergencies happen and you need helpful tools to resolve those unexpected problems. This includes simple items like:

These kind of utilitarian items weren't a problem on airplanes in the past...and they wouldn't be a problem NOW because hijackers will NEVER be able to seize another plane without being pummeled to mush. A little kit like this fits into a small pouch and is similarly handy to have stored in a car.

Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts alike learned valuable lessons!

~ Blue Jays ~

130 posted on 12/08/2004 4:20:05 PM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: Sub-Driver

Sir, Private Zippo reporting, Sir!
LMAO

now where the hell did I put that lighter fluid???


131 posted on 12/08/2004 4:27:46 PM PST by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: Blue Jays

Good one man. That's about my kit to. All small amount of cash also.

Of course you can't transport that stuff on a plane now. So if you're at an airport and an emergency strikes just plan on being just assed out. Don't worry the government will take care of ya.


132 posted on 12/08/2004 4:32:21 PM PST by Smogger
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To: Bluegrass Conservative

Umm... when you get there?


133 posted on 12/08/2004 4:33:58 PM PST by johnb838 (Killmore.)
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To: Bluegrass Conservative

Uhhhmmm because you could still use your lighter after you got off the plane??? Along withthe pack of cigarettes in your pocket that you didn't smoke.


134 posted on 12/08/2004 4:34:46 PM PST by Tempest (Click on my name for a long list of press contacts)
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I think it would be easier if we were all forced to fly naked and anesthetized.

Problem solved.

135 posted on 12/08/2004 4:37:58 PM PST by Last Visible Dog
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To: El Conservador

Smoke your weed like I do -- in the bathroom. Those smoke detectors aren't near as sensitive as they say they are. Besides, they're real easy to disable. A damp paper towel will do the trick every time.


136 posted on 12/08/2004 4:39:08 PM PST by johnb838 (Killmore.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Forgive me, but couldn't a bad guy start a fire with...oh, I dunno...a magnifying glass and a little bright sunshine?

Oh, I feel SOOOOO much safer now!

Regards,


137 posted on 12/08/2004 4:39:52 PM PST by VermiciousKnid
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To: jimthewiz
Fires on planes are generally electrical and not intentionally started.

The two deadliest pieces of equipment on a Navy ship are the electric clothes driers and the deep-fat friers.

138 posted on 12/08/2004 4:44:25 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: Old Professer

That was the reason given, and it applied to civilian charter flights too. There was always the chance of decompression.


139 posted on 12/08/2004 4:45:10 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Bluegrass Conservative
And, while they may be harder to find, matches should be banned on flights too.

Weren’t matches used by one terrorist to attempt to light his shoe bombs?
140 posted on 12/08/2004 4:46:55 PM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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