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To: ScottM1968; Americanwolfsbrother
You line that you argument is the only rational answer indicates that you do not play well with others... What gives your rational trump over everyone else's.

You make the comment that the people here cannot deal with reality. That is pretty arrogant also. What gives you the corner on knowing everything and being right all the time.

Ok how about this. I come to your house. I see you dog in the yard. I feel that it is going to attack me just laying there sleeping. I beat it. Now you come out and start yelling at me for attacking you property.. I am now in fear for my life from a human and I beat you to death.... i am going to be charge for both crimes... That is reality!

Why because the court can see a pattern there. This is no different that what our friend did expect that he was mad at the dog for peeing on his floor. What happens if he had a Kid and it did the same thing... Myself and the rest of society are not willing to take that chance.

If you want a reality where unchecked violence is accept as a norm and is not challenged by everyday citizens..Try Russia they let you beat your dogs and family over there...

That is reality too...... Just because you have your view of what you think reality does not mean yours is rational.
139 posted on 12/08/2004 1:47:03 PM PST by Americanwolf (Democratic Underground... Digital Crack for the the loony left.....Hey troll! Put the pipe down!)
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To: Americanwolf
Yes, I can make the statement that my point is the only valid one possible.

Because when we give animals "people-like" status, we have totally opened the door to true animal rights.

And once applied to special cases (like our favorite pet), it is easily applied (and has been) to farmed animals (remember the animal rights protests around the world over the past 20 years?).

And then it is made to all other animals. You can forget eating meat and of killing mice. For you see, they have rights and feelings and are protected "over here" in the legal precedent.

This is invariably what must happen if we give animals preferential status beyond what they've held throughout mankind's reign.

Not even the Bible gives any more status to animals than we are to have stewardship over them and if senselessly killed by another, payment to be rendered.

So this should help you understand why your position is sadly untenable.

For it screws us all.
153 posted on 12/08/2004 1:56:37 PM PST by ScottM1968
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