"What is important is that you are trying to make islam palatable to anyone you can win over."
No. What I'm doing is trying to get people to see muslims the same way our military in Iraq must see them. There are "good muslims" and "bad muslims", just as there are good and bad in any religion, ethnicity, etc. Not all muslims are terrorists and extremists and radicals. Muslims can't all be lumped together. There are different sects. When people start labeling all the members of a group without regard to individual's differences, or making distinctions between the members of that group, that type of thinking gets a name. You may not like it.....
The only thing I'm trying to "win people over" to is fairness, religious tolerance, the right for people here to practice their religion in peace, and the idea that there is NO ROOM within the Conservative Movement for people who won't accept that.
Maybe you don't realize that there are muslim FReepers, who are conservative Republicans. These remarks about ALL members of their faith are rude, ignorant, and hurtful.
"Maybe you don't realize that there are muslim FReepers, who are conservative Republicans. These remarks about ALL members of their faith are rude, ignorant, and hurtful."
Looks like CAIR trained you really goooood!!!!!
Try harder and harder....we know who the pedophile is that had sex with a 9 year old girl, ehehe!!!
Maybe we have misjudged you, but perhaps you should have been more intellectually honest in your initial posts. You started on this thread, last night, by making snide remarks. That is certainly no way to engage in reasonable debate, and people are naturally going to respond accordingly. If there are muslim FReepers who truly support conservative principles and this country, then I cannot think they are "good" muslims, who put loyalty to their religion above loyalty to their country. I have spent far too many years on the loony left to get fooled again. And as patriot, a Bush supporter, a Messianic Jew (Jews who believe that Jesus is our savior)AND a Zionist, I am naturally suspicious of posts like yours, and, I don't deny it, of Muslims in general. It is not bigotry that prompted this mistrust, but the actions (or inactions) of the Muslim community. If I am proved wrong someday, I will own it. But so far, I have not seen or heard anything that alters this perception.
Look, most of us know that not ALL moslems are islamofascists.
My point is this, that in spite of that fact, the hard-core fascists of islam are the ones driving that cult.
The rest of the followers won't speak up, out of fear.
Most of us get that.
However, it is wrong to try to make islam acceptable, the islam that we know today, and the islam that has been practiced for centuries. It is just plain wrong.
Until there is a reformation in islam, we don't need it in the West, it's too dissimilar.
Why don't you work on islamics to make them see what's wrong in their culture, instead of trying to make Americans accept what is a failed system?
You're talking waaaaaay over their heads...
When people start labeling all the members of a group without regard to individual's differences, or making distinctions between the members of that group, that type of thinking gets a name.
Funny, I thought denying individual responsibility and assigning group guilt was a liberal Democratic position.