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The 200-Year Duel (The Hamiltons and the Burrs are still at it)
The Weekly Standard ^
| December 13, 2004
| Matthew Continetti
Posted on 12/07/2004 6:53:41 PM PST by RWR8189
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12/07/2004 6:53:44 PM PST
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RWR8189
To: RWR8189
Great piece and three cheers for Burr for dispatching of that damn Federalist.
To: RWR8189
I dunno, maybe that whole treason thing kind of puts a damper on Burr's legacy.
To: RWR8189
Great article. Hamilton would most definitely be in the the camp of the big government Democrats today, but Burr was no Republican.
Hamilton promoted some things which made us a great nation. The very limited banking envisioned by the Founders would be chaos in today's environment.
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posted on
12/07/2004 7:09:02 PM PST
by
Dog Gone
To: RWR8189
Burr "was a smart, clever man, and he said a number of funny things," the historian Richard Brookhiser, who curated the Historical Society's exhibition, has said. "But he was an empty narcissist." Much like his descendent, Al Gore, eh?
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posted on
12/07/2004 7:11:15 PM PST
by
Vigilanteman
(crime would drop like a sprung trapdoor if we brought back good old-fashioned hangings)
To: Dog Gone
Big government circa 1800 is not the same thing as big government in 2004.
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posted on
12/07/2004 7:20:39 PM PST
by
RWR8189
(Its Morning in America Again!)
To: RWR8189
Agreed. I am extrapolating to the future with regard to Hamilton. I might well have agreed with him back then.
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posted on
12/07/2004 7:23:48 PM PST
by
Dog Gone
To: RWR8189
"Actually," confided Antonio Burr, "he was a lot like Bill Clinton." Hamilton partisans, on the other hand, acuuse Burr of being "a lot like Bill Clinton."
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posted on
12/07/2004 7:24:47 PM PST
by
ScottFromSpokane
(We're none of us prefect.)
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posted on
12/07/2004 7:25:39 PM PST
by
Lion in Winter
(I ain't no pussy cat... don't mess with me... ya hear! GRRRRRRrrr)
To: RWR8189
I strongly recommend the Ron Chernow bio of Hamilton. I've been reading it for a month now, it's a massive book, full of marvelous anecdotes. Hamilton's early life was so tragic, it's amazing that he rose above it as he did.
A comment about Burr sticks with me: the few memoirs that Burr wrote were filled with gossip, boasts about his sexual conquests, inconsequential fluff. Contrast this with the large body of essays that Hamilton produced.
It was such a tragedy that a nonentity like Burr was the one to put out the lights on Hamilton's promise.
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posted on
12/07/2004 7:38:03 PM PST
by
Ciexyz
(I use the term Blue Cities, not Blue States. PA is red except for Philly, Pgh & Erie.)
To: RWR8189; justshutupandtakeit
"There is an elegant memorial in Washington to Jefferson," George Will once said, "but none to Hamilton. However, if you seek Hamilton's monument, look around. You are living in it. We honor Jefferson, but live in Hamilton's country."Well said. It's funny to think of McGreevey paying tribute to Aaron Burr.
It's certainly possible to criticize Hamilton, but he lived in the real world and tried to deal with real world problems. Jefferson, his chief opponent, was a great visionary, but a much less realistic thinker.
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posted on
12/07/2004 7:41:03 PM PST
by
x
To: Vigilanteman
Much like his descendent, Al Gore, eh? And Gore Vidal?
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posted on
12/07/2004 7:43:22 PM PST
by
Lonesome in Massachussets
(NYT Headline: "The Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS", Fake But Accurate, Experts Say)
To: RWR8189
Excellent article. It simply flabbergasts me that anyone would flak for Burr at this late date, though I do think he genuinely regretted killing Hamilton.
Hamilton would have made a fair president, but he would've been a far better United States Senator. As a deliberative body, the Senate would've been uniquely suited to Hamilton's genius and wit. He was a great American, and the seeds for the great country we live in today were at least partially planted by Alexander Hamilton.
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posted on
12/07/2004 7:48:42 PM PST
by
A Jovial Cad
("I had no shoes and I complained, until I saw a man who had no feet.")
To: x
It's certainly possible to criticize Hamilton, but he lived in the real world and tried to deal with real world problems. Jefferson, his chief opponent, was a great visionary, but a much less realistic thinker Exactly right--you defined it just how it should be seen historically.
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posted on
12/07/2004 7:53:15 PM PST
by
A Jovial Cad
("I had no shoes and I complained, until I saw a man who had no feet.")
To: RWR8189
How unfair of them to blame Burr for Hamilton's death, when it was obviously the fault of the gun manufacturer.
If I'm not mistaken, Burr was sued for divorce by his wife on grounds of adultery, and the decree granting the divorce was issued the very day he died.
To: A Jovial Cad
"Hamilton would have made a fair president, but he would've been a far better United States Senator."
Hamilton could not become President for the same reason Arnold can't become President.
Hamilton was born in the Bahamas, he was not a natural born citizen of any of the united states.
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posted on
12/07/2004 8:01:20 PM PST
by
edeal
To: RWR8189
Very interesting piece. Thanks for posting.
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12/07/2004 8:16:41 PM PST
by
Fiddlstix
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To: ScottFromSpokane
Hamilton partisans, on the other hand, acuuse Burr of being "a lot like Bill Clinton."So they agree with Antonio Burr.
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