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Poll: Over 50% of Germans equate IDF with Nazi army
Jerusalem Post ^ | Dec. 7, 2004 | Etgar Lefkowits

Posted on 12/07/2004 2:14:35 PM PST by Alouette

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To: blakep

Oh I think some of those people are educated and that's the frightening part.


21 posted on 12/07/2004 2:26:23 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: Alouette

What they are saying is that killing an unborn child by aborion is fine, but that defending yourself from the bloodthirsty barbarians next door that vow to exterminate you, (as in "destroy the state of Israel") is evil. I wonder where these people get their delusions from.


22 posted on 12/07/2004 2:26:56 PM PST by Polak z Polski
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To: SF Republican

I worked around the IDF while in the MFO. Pound for pound they are bad to the bone.


23 posted on 12/07/2004 2:26:57 PM PST by 101st-Eagle
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To: West Coast Conservative

Of course they do. That's the sad part.


24 posted on 12/07/2004 2:27:08 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: Alouette

I watch German TV and French TV almost every day and it likely reflects German and French thinking and their culture.

The above poll accurately reflects what I have been watching. Their media are very similar to our left wing media and those who follow it represent the same views.

Even though the Germans are tired of guilt feelings, they are still in deep denial over the Nazi atrocities. Likewise the French who were very happy Vichy people content to send Jews to the death camps and would be willing to do the same today.


25 posted on 12/07/2004 2:28:17 PM PST by matchwood
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To: Alouette

In Related News -

100% Of IDF Says 51% Of Germans Are Nuts


26 posted on 12/07/2004 2:29:13 PM PST by siunevada
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To: Alouette

Purposeless, useless, godless, european nation adrift.


27 posted on 12/07/2004 2:30:06 PM PST by dagnabbit (Don't let Europe happen to America. Tell Bush & Congress to stop their massive Islamic immigration.)
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To: matchwood

The French resistance: born June 6, 1944.


28 posted on 12/07/2004 2:30:07 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: Alouette
I would like to ask those 50% of Germans who appear ignorant of their own history two questions:

How many extermination camps has Israel set up and where are they located?
How many trainloads of victims have the Israelis "processed"?

This may come as a surprise to Germans, but these two items define Nazism...

29 posted on 12/07/2004 2:30:58 PM PST by Publius6961 (The most abundant things in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity.)
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To: Clemenza

BOYCOTT GERMANY!

Absolutely!

No Volkswagons. Mercedes, Audis, German beer, crystal, optics and whatever else they make.


30 posted on 12/07/2004 2:31:42 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Writers of hate GW/Christians/ Republicans Articles = GIM=GAY INFECTED MEDIOTS!)
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To: siunevada

I'd much rather go into battle with an IDF division on my flank than a German one.


31 posted on 12/07/2004 2:32:05 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: Alouette

51 percent of respondents said that there is not much of a difference between what Israel is doing to the Palestinians today and what the Nazis did to the Jews during the Holocaust

I can think of two differences.

1. German Jews were not going around blowing up trolley cars, beer halls and kindergartens in Germany.

2. The IDF is not conducting mass exterminations at the rate of several thousand per day.
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Careful now, let's not get too nit picky here! /sarcasm

I think it is best said, by the ever so elequent Secretary Defense of the United States Armed Forces - Donald Rumsfeld:

Q [Palestinian general]: Mr. Secretary, You talked about countries that were trying to produce weapons of mass destruction. You talked about Iraq and you talked about Iran and North Korea. I have a question, a direct question to you. What are you doing with Israel? As far as Israel is concerned, Israel has more atomic weapons in the region than any other country. Why do you remain silent in regard to Israel? I think it’s important to answer this question because this has to do with the world, the strategy that we are pursuing today. I think that if the position towards Israel were different then the situation would be different in the Near East, and this is a great problem.

Rumsfeld: You know the answer before I give it, I’m sure. The world knows the answer. We take the world like you find it; and Israel is a small state with a small population. It’s a democracy and it exists in a neighborhood that in many -- over a period of time has opined from time to time that they’d prefer it not be there and they’d like it to be put in the sea. And Israel has opined that it would prefer not to get put in the sea, and as a result, over a period of decades, it has arranged itself so it hasn’t been put in the sea.

Thank you all very much.


32 posted on 12/07/2004 2:32:06 PM PST by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/terrorism.htm)
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To: matchwood

I would be sick if I was told at school that I were responsible for it even though I was a child of the cold war Germany.


33 posted on 12/07/2004 2:32:49 PM PST by MinstrelBoy (What will you do without freedom?!)
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To: Publius6961

Not to mention conquering all of one's neighbors.


34 posted on 12/07/2004 2:33:15 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: Alouette

We should have let the Soviet Union had its way with Germany. They still would have collapsed, eventually.


35 posted on 12/07/2004 2:34:41 PM PST by StoneColdGOP (Name a shrub after me - something prickly and hard to eradicate.)
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To: Alouette

Poor Germans!

A mind is a terrible thing to waste!


36 posted on 12/07/2004 2:35:41 PM PST by Fruitbat
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To: Alouette; All

"Six decades after the mass extermination of six million Jews in the Holocaust by Nazi Germany, more than 50 percent of Germans believe that Israel's present-day treatment of the Palestinians is similar to what the Nazis did to the Jews during World War II, a German survey released this weekend shows."No "Germany" Izrael good persons fight evil devil lucifer persons evil persons atack good Izrael persons German persons do you know Auschwiz,Treblinka,Buhenwald, Zamojsc,Majdanek itp..Do you know children mather father not life, do you know 1938 Hamburg,Munich, Berlin do you know what evil is Hitler is evil Stalin is evil!

Wenn Konzentration Lager, in denen verursacht Deutsche, anderen schauen Weise.Ihr Herz ist kalt und unzulänglich geworden, Größe von zu verstehen Ihre Verbrechen, denen Ihr Land es auf unterschiedliche Leute gesetzt hat. I do not write this for good German persons I write this for not good german persons.Thank you


37 posted on 12/07/2004 2:36:45 PM PST by anonymoussierra
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To: Alouette

First, the Germans have a self-interest in minimizing their own historical crimes against humanity. That's why they've joined in this chorus equating Bush to Hitler. They are trying to rehabilitate Hitler.

Second, the Germans are anti-Semites, and have always been anti-Semites.


38 posted on 12/07/2004 2:37:11 PM PST by Brilliant
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To: mainepatsfan

"The French resistance: born June 6, 1944."

Everyone in France purports to have been a member of the resistance or child or grandchild of a resistance fighter.

In fact there were very, very few resistance fighters; many of those who called themselves resistance fighters simply used the term to settle old scores and kill up to 5,000 people for personal reasons.

Most French were happy and content with their Vichy government and were extremely "annoyed" that Americans and Brits invaded their country.

During WWI, the French charged the Brits a $200 fee for every boxcar of goods traversing France in support of the war. The Brits very quickly decided they were fighting on the wrong side.

I recommend you read the books, "Our Oldest Enemy" and "Forget About All That."


39 posted on 12/07/2004 2:38:08 PM PST by matchwood
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To: Alouette; Stillwaters; Pride in the USA
51 percent of respondents said that there is not much of a difference between what Israel is doing to the Palestinians today and what the Nazis did to the Jews during the Holocaust, compared to 49% who disagreed with such a comparison, according to the poll carried out by Germany's University of Bielefeld.

I wonder how closely this would match polling results in the USA blue states if asked the same questions.

40 posted on 12/07/2004 2:38:33 PM PST by lonevoice (Vast Right Wing Pajama Party)
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