Posted on 12/06/2004 6:14:06 PM PST by NormsRevenge
True enough, but I'm blessed to have one like him in my life still.
An injustice long overlooked has been corrected. Here's raising a glass to the memory of the Oklahoma.
http://www.geocities.com/bb37usa/
a good site for USS Oklahoma
"I remember seeing the silver service (and ship's bell?) salvaged from the Oklahoma when I toured the OK Historical Society building...decades ago."
It was there for many years and I think it is back again. However, there was a time, I believe, about a decade ago where one of OKs governors had "acquired" the silver service for state functions use. I believe the Historical Society made them give it back. The anchor of the USS Oklahoma is a memorial, that has been there forever, one main street in down town Oklahoma City. I work within walking distance of this and if I get ambitious tommorrow I will walk over to it a maybe reflect and pray some. The building I work in is right across the street from the Alphred P. Murry federal building bombing national memorial - I see that every day of the week.
"Heck, I'm a junky for this stuff and didn't realize a "California" had been
in the battle until I bought a Pearl Harbor commemorative put out by Time-Life...just a couple of weeks before 9-11.."
Goodness, haven't you ever read Wouk's "Winds of War" and "War and Remembrance", or even watched "Tora, Tora, Tora." ?????
"The anchor of the USS Oklahoma is a memorial, that has been there forever, one main
street in down town Oklahoma City."
Hey, I think I do recall that...on one of the east-west street...just west of
Robinson.
I worked at about 13th and Shartel for nearly six years (close to St. Anthonys)
"Goodness, haven't you ever read Wouk's "Winds of War" and "War and Remembrance",
or even watched "Tora, Tora, Tora." ????? "
OK, I should be flogged.
I tried Wouk's "Winds of War" in junior high and just didn't have time to
get through much of it. I know Wouk is high in the pantheon of writers...
but I just couldn't get jazzed enough to stay with the book.
As for "Tora, Tora, Tora"...I saw it once when it first came out...so memory
of a California was flushed long ago.
Myself, I'm more a "Midway" guy...especially for the guilty pleasure of seeing
the shock on the Japanses aviators' faces as they survey their three burning carriers...
My DAD served on the Utah during the WW 1 era. My DAD died 12/20/2003. The last combat vet from WW1 in Alabama.
Comment Details: The battleship Utah was bombed and torpoeded at Pearl Harbor. It capsized with the loss of about 60 sailors. Orginally built as a battleship she was of the Florida class. Her number was BB-31. Late in her life she was converted to a target ship and designated as AG-16. Upon conversion the Utah had it's main guns removed and timbers placed on it's deck to soften the impact of target shells. During the attack, the Japs thought it was a front line battleship and attacked. Many people debate how many battleships were at or sunk on Dec 7. It depends if you consider the Utah a battleship as originally constructed or as a target ship as it was converted to. The japs reported 9 battleships sunk or damaged because of this.
The excellent article at the URL you posted gives details of how UTAH was converted to remote radio control to sereve as a moving target.
Pray for W and Our Troops
That is correct. She was being used for training purposes as a target ship.
Congressional Medal of Honor
Awarded Posthumously
FRANCIS C. FLAHERTY
Rank and organization: Ensign, U.S. Naval Reserve.
Place and date: During the attack on the Fleet in Pearl Harbor, by Japanese forces on 7 December 1941.
Born: 15 March 1919, Charlotte, Michigan.
Accredited to: Michigan.
When it was seen that the U.S.S. Oklahoma was going to capsize and the order was given to abandon ship, Ens. Flaherty remained in a turret, holding a flashlight so the remainder of the turret crew could see to escape, thereby sacrificing his own life.
Congressional Medal of Honor
Awarded Posthumously
JAMES RICHARD WARD
Rank and organization: Seaman First Class, U.S. Navy.
Place and date: Pearl Harbor, 7 December 1941.
Born: 10 September 1921, Springfield, Ohio.
Entered service at: Springfield, Ohio.
When it was seen that the U.S.S. Oklahoma was going to capsize and the order was given to abandon ship, Ward remained in a turret holding a flashlight so the remainder of the turret crew could see to escape, thereby sacrificing his own life.
http://www.worldwariihistory.info/Medal-of-Honor/Pearl-Harbor.html
Thanks for posting that as well as the map.
My husband's grandfather was killed in Pearl Harbor 7 December 1941. My husband's father died 62 years later on 7 December of last year.
Thanks for telling his story. He wasn't a glory grabbing Kerry was he? Reminds me of my father in law. He took the Marines into the beaches, under fire, as Navy Coxwain of Higgins boat landing craft, throughout the Solomon Island, Okinawa, and Iwo Jima invasions. You can't hardly get him to talk about it either. I am honored to have a hero for my father-in-law.
What a great story about your time with this gentleman. Thanks for telling us about it. That generation has served us greatly. I'm so happy that the Oklahoma sailors are finally being recognized, though it is mind-boggling that something like this has taken so darn long.
Great idea, yooper. Do you hang outdoor Christmas lights? LOL!
We think we are doing something new with our remotely piloted drones -- but The Utah was remotely controlled (piloted) via radio well before the start of WWII!
Oh, well, I suppose it is a prouder fate for one of our old warhorses to provice training for our young warriors -- rather than to be cut up for scrap.
Joe Kennedy was killed when a remotely piloted plane malfunctioned. The Germans also had remotely piloted anti-ship missles for stand-off attacks on shipping.
9/11 happened...
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