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Breaking: High Rise Fire Chicago 12/06/04
12/06/04 | GRRRRR

Posted on 12/06/2004 5:15:28 PM PST by GRRRRR

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To: Straight Vermonter

They are showing a firefighter with a flashlight on the 30th floor. The flames have died down tremendously. Looks like they may be able to make progress. They are also fighting from 3 roofs.


381 posted on 12/06/2004 8:31:46 PM PST by LibertyRocks
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To: Straight Vermonter

They finally have gotten water directed at 30 from outside. It has really damped the fire down. You can see shadows of firefighters passing back and forth on 30.


382 posted on 12/06/2004 8:31:47 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: usconservative

OMG, I grew up in Ingleside (not far from Round Lake Beach).


383 posted on 12/06/2004 8:31:48 PM PST by BlessedBeGod (George W. Bush -- The Terror of the Terrorists)
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To: BlessedBeGod

That's what I was wondering too. At what % of firefighters utilized do they call for backup, to cover the rest of the city?


384 posted on 12/06/2004 8:31:48 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: Baraonda
Has the building been evacuated, or are there people trapped inside?

They simply don't know.

385 posted on 12/06/2004 8:32:16 PM PST by usconservative ((This space intentionally left blank. Do not deface.))
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To: LibertyRocks

That's good news.


386 posted on 12/06/2004 8:33:20 PM PST by Baraonda (Demographic changes have consequences.)
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To: Baraonda
Has the building been evacuated, or are there people trapped inside?

Nobody knows for sure. Fog of war. A lot of folks are out, but there may well be areas the firemen haven't been able to reach.

Fervent prayer would be a very good idea about now.

387 posted on 12/06/2004 8:33:35 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: usconservative

From Round Lake Beach?? Geesh, I wonder how many other suburban units are there?


388 posted on 12/06/2004 8:33:52 PM PST by LibertyRocks
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To: AnAmericanMother

Several people have posted about the possibility of the structure collapsing. No skyscrapers other than WTC have ever collapsed as far as I know. That was obviously a different situation than a normal building fire.

Let's not see everything through the prism of 9/11.


389 posted on 12/06/2004 8:34:10 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (Liberalism: The irrational fear of self reliance.)
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To: AnAmericanMother
One thing for sure.

Nobody is going to be back working inside that building for a long time.

2-3 weeks minimum.

390 posted on 12/06/2004 8:35:25 PM PST by Rome2000 (Democrats are perverted socialist crooks)
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To: usconservative

NBC5 reported that this building will be closed tomorrow.(duh!) All other LaSalle locations will be open.

[There went your fire day . . .]


391 posted on 12/06/2004 8:37:32 PM PST by Petruchio (<===Looks Sexy in a flightsuit . . . Looks Silly in a french maid outfit)
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To: Rome2000

They've already announced at minimum the building will be closed tomorrow.

I think it'll be longer than 2-3 weeks. The Cook County building was closed for 3+ months if I remember right. The LaSalle Bank Building is considerably larger (takes up an entire city block in length, 3/4 of a block in width) than the Cook County building.


392 posted on 12/06/2004 8:37:39 PM PST by usconservative ((This space intentionally left blank. Do not deface.))
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To: Straight Vermonter
I have seen partial collapse of lightly constructed O/I properties (4-10 floors).

My point in my post was that this is an old building, and that that is GOOD news. They were heavily over-engineered in the early days, a big safety factor built in because building this high was still relatively new. Construction methods used tons more steel than is used nowadays, and the frame of the building is extremely heavy and rigid. It probably wouldn't melt even with the liberal application of jet fuel.

393 posted on 12/06/2004 8:38:13 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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To: Petruchio

As long as everyone gets out alive.

My "fire" day will likely be spent in meetings with business process people going through business resumption exercizes.


394 posted on 12/06/2004 8:39:08 PM PST by usconservative ((This space intentionally left blank. Do not deface.))
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To: Straight Vermonter
Let's not see everything through the prism of 9/11.

What you post is correct but it's also hard to do. Once we would see people trapped 9 stories up and be confident that if they wet towels by doors etc they would be ok until the fire out. Now it's a "hurry" feeling. We saw the towers collapse and know that jet fuel and maybe explosives brought them down but you still keep it in the back of your mind, I think.

395 posted on 12/06/2004 8:39:49 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: AnAmericanMother
You can see shadows of firefighters passing back and forth on 30.

I would assume they've shut off electricity to the building...?

396 posted on 12/06/2004 8:39:51 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (This is your budget. This is your budget on the Drug War. Any questions? [eno_])
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To: dfwright

They were saying on channel 2 that they had been in the process of retrofitting the building with sprinklers, but only made it through the 2nd floor.


397 posted on 12/06/2004 8:39:52 PM PST by dfwright
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Actually, no. There are lights on all floors except those consumed by the flames.


398 posted on 12/06/2004 8:40:47 PM PST by LibertyRocks
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To: CindyDawg
We saw the towers collapse and know that jet fuel and maybe explosives brought them down but you still keep it in the back of your mind, I think.

Jet Fuel, Yes. Explosives, No.

399 posted on 12/06/2004 8:40:54 PM PST by COEXERJ145
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To: HiTech RedNeck

No, apparently the main supply is still intact.


400 posted on 12/06/2004 8:41:16 PM PST by AnAmericanMother (. . . Ministrix of ye Chace (recess appointment), TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary . . .)
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