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What Japanese Women Want: A Western Husband
The Christian Science Monitor ^ | December 6, 2004 | Bennett Richardson

Posted on 12/06/2004 9:12:18 AM PST by MississippiMasterpiece

TOKYO – The Japanese government wants women like Taeko Mizuguchi to get married and start doing something about the nation's plunging birthrate. But she's not interested.

At least, not if her prospective husband is Japanese.

A growing number of Japanese women are giving up on their male counterparts, and taking a gamble that looking abroad for love will bring them the qualities in a partner that seem rare at home. Mr. Right, as the hope goes, is often an American or European, a man appreciative of a wife's career and more of a partner in daily tasks.

"They treat you like equals, and they don't hesitate to express mutual feelings of respect - I think Western men are more adept [at such things] than Japanese men," says the 36-year-old Ms. Mizuguchi, who works at a top trading firm. "They don't act like women are maids - I think they view women as individuals."

Underscoring that Japanese women are losing hope with the local boys, dating agencies to help snag a Western husband have sprung up in Tokyo, some with branches in the US and Europe. Such companies rigorously vet their clients, screening for education, family background, occupation, and life goals.

The kind of women who sign up for such services include doctors, lawyers, and other professionals - women who have delayed marriage to concentrate on careers and who aren't keen to give up hard won gains to become a housewife, as many Japanese men expect.

Japanese women have come to consider traditional marriage roles as "disadvantageous in terms of time resources - they have to carry the burden of domestic chores as well as lose their free time," says Chizuko Ueno, a professor of sociology at Tokyo University.

Normally, married Japanese women have not only to look after their own parents during old age, but also to care for their parents-in-law. When it comes to raising kids, "they can't expect much cooperation from their partner" because of the long work hours required at many Japanese corporations and because of established gender roles that assume that the woman does the child-rearing, Ms. Ueno adds.

A generation of women who are now entering their 30s don't want to give up single life unless prospective partners are willing to break from traditional gender roles.

Government polls conducted to find out why women have put off marriage until well after 25 years of age - known as a woman's " 'best before' date" - show that economic independence is key to the change. As most Japanese women have their own income, marriage is no longer a financial necessity and women want to find companionship in a husband.

That is where Japanese men have come up short. There is "a wide gap in men's and women's attitudes and expectations toward marriage" vis-à-vis traditional gender roles, says Sumiko Iwao, professor of social psychology at Musashi Institute of Technology in Yokohama. For instance, coming home later than your Japanese husband is a no-no.

Having ruled out an old-fashioned Japanese husband, many women here think the solution is a Western man. Indeed, some seem so enthralled with the idea that they are willing to spend thousands of dollars to inspect the wares personally. Of the more than 2,000 women on the books at one large matchmaking agency, about 200 travel to the US or Europe each month to meet prospects.

Sentimental projections have recently been extended to Korean men also, due to romantic Korean soap operas.

In 2003, Japanese women marrying American or British men outnumbered Japanese men marrying American or British women by 8 to 1. The total proportion of Japanese marrying foreigners each year has crept up from around 3.5 percent in 1995 to just over 5 percent. Japanese men are actually more than three times as likely as the women to take a foreign spouse, but this is mostly rural men marrying less well-off Chinese and Filipino women. "Such cases are elderly farmers not popular among young Japanese women," says Yuriko Hashimoto, a local government employee in the remote northern prefecture of Iwate.

To be fair, not all the blame for female angst here can be laid on Japanese men. The government has been slow to enforce equal opportunity laws, and both pay and the glass ceiling in most Japanese corporations remain low for women. Recession has hampered longer maternity leave and other family-friendly policies.

As Japan's fertility rate drops to new lows - at last count it was 1.29, well below levels required for population replacement - the ruling Liberal Democratic Party is anxiously drawing up plans to make it easier for young couples to raise children, through such measures as the provision of cheap public housing.

Mixed marriages in Japan

Japanese men marry:
Chinese 10,242 Filipinos 7,794 Koreans 2,235 Americans 156 British 65

Japanese women marry:
Koreans 5,318 Americans 1,529 Chinese 890 British 334 Filipinos 117

Source: 2003 Ministry of Health, Labor, and Welfare


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To: Just another Joe

By the way, did you choose your name because, while in the Philippines, everyone called you Joe? If I had a dollar for every time I got called Joe, I would be rich.


921 posted on 12/07/2004 8:34:52 AM PST by Mark17
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To: MississippiMasterpiece
American women: We decide, you report (to us)!

922 posted on 12/07/2004 8:35:23 AM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: Mark17
Did you pick up a lot by watching TV, or simply by being exposed to it all the time?

Full exposure. I lived on the local economy while I was there so I was in the markets haggling, in the bars drinking, in the movie theatres, etc.

923 posted on 12/07/2004 8:43:10 AM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: Mark17
There's a story behind it.
Whenever I would leave the base I would draw all the kids hanging around the gate with me for a couple of blocks then tell them to get lost in their own language.
They'd always tell me, "Aww, you just another Joe."
924 posted on 12/07/2004 8:45:02 AM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: gridlock
Not only are the total number of "mixed marriages" insignificant, but more Japanese men are marrying foreigners than Japanese women marrying foreigners. So, exactly what is the trend? One could easily conclude that Japanese men are seeking wives with traditional values and find other Asian females more likely have the values they are seeking.

Additionally, the actual number of Japanese women marrying Westerners is but a fraction of those marrying Koreans and Chinese men. It seems they actually prefer some of the traditional Asian values rather than so-called Western values.
925 posted on 12/07/2004 9:03:33 AM PST by Poodlebrain
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To: JenB

Not evil, neurotic. Evil is easier to put up with.


926 posted on 12/07/2004 10:23:44 AM PST by ThanhPhero ( Nguoi di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: Mark17

I got my Filipina.

You sound as though you just obtained a new car.


927 posted on 12/07/2004 10:48:12 AM PST by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

You are exactly right - mostly what I saw was dirt and rubble and pigs wondering down the streets and trucks using charcoal for fuel.

In that desperate situation one certainly couldn't blame the little Japanese lass and as young as I was at the time, I fully understood it wasn't "love at first sight."


928 posted on 12/07/2004 11:39:39 AM PST by matchwood
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To: AmericanInTokyo

P.S. Nice pictures of present day Japan - quite a contrast. We managed a cultural tour during our brief visit, to the Buddha of Kamakura (?). Is he still there? I have an old B&W snapshot.


929 posted on 12/07/2004 11:42:12 AM PST by matchwood
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To: Cogadh na Sith

I take your word for it that the married people you know are unhappy, but that may not be her experience with the people she knows.


930 posted on 12/07/2004 12:29:10 PM PST by baseballfanjm
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To: matchwood

He's (still) there alright. He'll be sitting there for the next 2000 years, too, provided there isnt a massive earthquake there.


931 posted on 12/07/2004 12:56:21 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (If the GOP fields a genuine and not a phony in 2008, there's no way Hilary can win USA hearts/votes.)
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To: MississippiMasterpiece
"the kind of women who hang around groups of foriegn soldiers are probably not the most uptight and old-fashioned"

Unfortunately, wave upon wave, generation after generation of young American came back to the US after a couple of years posted to Asia...having 'sewn' quite a bit of 'oats' there. problem is, many, many of them only with transcient, obscene or crass relationships (often for money) with Asian women who were generally gravitating within a five mile radius of the military base front gate, leeching off the PX and GIs, and ergo, a high percentage of the Asian females in the total universe(in the GI's minds with limited exposure)simply ='wh*res' and 'sl*ts'.

This would be anything but the truth. The US military were meeting only a relatively small, unrepresentative, bastardized/jaded tip of the social iceberg, not mainstream Asian females. Many US GIs would come back with a highly aberrant, skewed and limited impression of Asian women so totally unrepresentative of the whole..but it fueled a whole cottage industry, urban legened of the image that Asian woman = wh*re = all too easy.....such as popularized by the overused "love you long time"....this is a bum rap for the great majority of Asian women....i agree there are vast segments of Asian women who would have nothing to do with American military or bases or bars nearby them...and have and had just as conservative morals if not more conservative than the average American blonde teenage girl back stateside in the 1960s or 1970s.

932 posted on 12/07/2004 1:19:45 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (If the GOP fields a genuine and not a phony in 2008, there's no way Hilary can win USA hearts/votes.)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

That's what I had heard at the time - earthquakes, floods and the old guy lives on!


933 posted on 12/07/2004 2:07:01 PM PST by matchwood
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Your advice is just about 100% wrong. Men who do what you say are going to be seen as boring at best, creepy stalkers at worst.

I'm all ears. What advice would you offer?

934 posted on 12/07/2004 3:08:36 PM PST by PFKEY
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To: PFKEY
Pick on her. Tease her. Treat her like your bratty little sister. Beautiful women are used to adoring comments from losers - they get them fifty times a day. You've got to do something different to catch her interest. This is why "jerks" do so well - women respond to the challenge. Be confident, not worshipful. You have power, too. You don't have to give it all away to a woman you don't even know yet just to get her to pay attention to you. Turn the usual perspective around: she's looking for a husband, and you might be the one...so she had better be on her best behavior with you.

You think this approach will drive women away? Convince them you are a jerk? It's just the opposite, my friend.

Tell her she's beautiful and she's just going to think: "Yeah, right. I know what this guy wants. What a loser. Maybe I can get him to buy me things for a while." ;)

935 posted on 12/07/2004 4:51:15 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Pick on her. Tease her. Treat her like your bratty little sister.

Convince them you are a jerk...Has this approach worked well for you?

936 posted on 12/07/2004 4:58:28 PM PST by PFKEY
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To: PFKEY
Has this approach worked well for you?

Let's just say women don't think I'm a jerk. ;)

937 posted on 12/07/2004 5:09:40 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Go get em killer.

BTW nice pic on your profile page.


938 posted on 12/07/2004 5:15:41 PM PST by PFKEY
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To: Mark17
How are your language skills coming? It is a hard language, but I learn a little at a time. I have her on instant messaging, as we speak.

It is a pretty simple language actually, at least Tagalog, Cebuano, and similar are. Others, like Ilicano are tougher. There are many languages and dialects, some of which are quite divergent. My skills have actually more or less rusted away at this point.

One thing that makes Tagalog easy to learn is that many of the words they use are Spanish transliterated into their alphabet/soundset. I discovered very early on that if I was reading a Tagalog word that I did not know that was not obviously pure Tagalog, I would try to map the sound of it to Spanish in my head to determine its meaning. This works far more often than you think it would. I don't really know much Spanish, but I knew enough that I bridged a lot of gaps with it. The structure and form is not Spanish, but many of the words in the language were taken from Spanish.

939 posted on 12/07/2004 5:26:05 PM PST by tortoise (All these moments lost in time, like tears in the rain.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Pick on her. Tease her. Treat her like your bratty little sister.

I laughed out loud when I read that. That is exactly what my husband did with me and it worked wonderfully. He was never mean or arrogant, just playful. And I responded in kind. And we still do it now.

940 posted on 12/07/2004 5:49:20 PM PST by SilentServiceCPOWife (In the smiling twilight of the new political morning, the unwashed told their betters to shove it.)
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