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To: Aetius
Those pushing the homosexual agenda are unwilling to compromise on anything less that full national embracing of same sex couples. They claim that they wanted it to be at the state level (that is their excuse for opposing an amendment to the Constitution) but then they want every state to recognize their marriage.

Much like John Kerry, they will say anything to anyone to get their agenda through.

What President Bush has said is that the people in the states should be deciding this, not activist judges. A constitutional amendment may be the only thing that the courts would ever abide by (it WOULD BE Constitutional then). I believe that if there is NOT an amendment prohibiting same sex marriage, we will soon find constitutional protection for sexual proclivities the same way there are for race/creed/color/sex. And don't fall for attempts to link sexual fetishes to "sex" (male/female). Transvestites are screwed in the head. We are born naked, there is no "wear the opposite sex's clothes" gene.

A person's politics are not protected by the Constitution (while you have free speech, you are not protected against being fired for being a Republican or having epithets shouted at you, and there is no "hate crimes" law to push for additional punishment of those painting swastikas on Bush-Cheney 2004 signs or Republicans homes.

37 posted on 12/05/2004 12:15:56 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: weegee

I agree that the whole Kerry/DNC/Left stuff about supporting states rights on this matter was and is utter garbage. Its completely disingenuous because they know full well that the Courts are making such a position untenable and impossible. And what makes it even more disingenuous is that they know such judicial interference is even more certain if they are in office because the types of judges who behave in such a manner are the very judges they appoint.

Its all about biding their time until the Courts do for them what they can't do legislatively in a fair democratic fight -- impose gay marriage or civil unions. Then they hope a SCOTUS decision would take on a weight and momentum and gravitas of its own (like Roe unfortunately has where people consistently say they don't want it overturned yet turn around and say they oppose the defacto abortion on demand that it imposed). They would say "the courts have spoken, its now a matter of settled law." That would be echoes by the Couric and Jennings of the press. And hopefully -- from the Left's perspective -- that would take on enough weight that it sort of inclines most Americans to just accept it and do nothing about it.

I am not shocked that the mainstream media or the debate moderators never followed up with such logical questions such as; "what then will you do to stop Courts from taking power away from the states Sen Kerry, and what would you do if the Sup Court imposes gay marriage/civil unions?", but I am sort of surprised that people like Chris Wallace don't even think to ask it of people like Pelosi?

Though I think more Americans are catching on to the Left's deceptive tactics, the full extent of it will never be known if the GOP isn't willing to point it out for them. Then maybe someday you'll actually hear a Katie Couric ask a Nancy Pelosi (or some other phony pro-states righter) ask what they'll do if the Courts destroy states rights on this just as they have with abortion. If that happens then things will be looking pretty good for our side.


41 posted on 12/05/2004 12:29:59 PM PST by Aetius
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