[StJacques]

". . . So you can't ignore the hole -- for the "whole" of the doughnut is comprised of the thing we can see and the thing we cannot see. . . ."

So then there is such a thing as "doughnutness" by which we may only view a doughnut in the material world as a "contingent" example made possible by its "necessary" objective reality?

Ok, now we're getting somewhere.

[ckilmer]

So then there is such a thing as "doughnutness" by which we may only view a doughnut in the material world as a "contingent" example made possible by its "necessary" objective reality?
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there's probably a better ditty for this but this is the way I heard it.

matter tells space how to bend.
space tells matter how to move.
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so space is not nothing.

[betty boop]

So then there is such a thing as "doughnutness" by which we may only view a doughnut in the material world as a "contingent" example made possible by its "necessary" objective reality?

LOL StJacques! Methinks this is the case!