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Protesters issue Ukraine ultimatum
International Herald Tribune ^ | Monday, November 29, 2004

Posted on 11/28/2004 5:12:15 PM PST by A. Pole

The Ukrainian opposition gave President Leonid Kuchma an ultimatum on Sunday, warning that it would block his movements unless he fired Prime Minister Viktor Yanukovich and fulfilled other demands within 24 hours.

Yulia Tymoshenko, a top ally of Viktor Yushchenko, the challenger in the presidential election that officials say Yanukovich won, said that the opposition would give Kuchma until Monday evening to fire Yanukovich.

Tymoshenko told a rally of about 100,000 opposition supporters in Kiev's main square that protesters would block Kuchma's movements if he did not accede to their requests, which included the firing of regional governors who have threatened to seek autonomy.

"We know where he is, and we can prevent him from making a single step if he doesn't fulfill our demands," said Tymoshenko, a driving force behind the opposition protests that have swept Kiev since the disputed Nov.21 presidential runoff. [...]

(Excerpt) Read more at iht.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: axisofweasels; election; europe; neoeunazis; russia; ukraine; wot
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To: hchutch
It's a power grab by George Soros.

You don't know what you are talking about.

41 posted on 11/28/2004 9:23:29 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: KOZ.

you are missing the point - if you don't follow the constitution even to resolve something that your sie thinks wrong then you have mob rule.


42 posted on 11/28/2004 9:26:44 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Siobhan
Both the United States and the European Union have declared the election illegitimate. International monitoring groups, as well as Lugar, who was President Bush's envoy to monitor the elections, said the balloting was "a concerted and forceful program of election-day fraud and abuse."

Secretary of State Colin Powell said Tuesday the United States could not recognize the results unless the allegations of fraud were thoroughly investigated. Canada and several other countries followed.

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Senator Richard Lugar, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, served as an election monitor in both phases, as our president's envoy.

Today Lugar told Chris Wallace on Fox News Sunday of rampant fraud and intimidation.

Lugar said he and others had warned the government of the abuse of absentee ballots, the buses going from polling place to polling place, but the government turned a deaf ear.

43 posted on 11/28/2004 9:30:54 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Destro
So its fraud...

Would you say the same thing if Gore tried to hold onto power in 2000? (i don't think so).

44 posted on 11/28/2004 9:31:42 PM PST by mac_truck (Aide toi et dieu l’aidera)
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To: mac_truck

Was talking hypothetical - read on.


45 posted on 11/28/2004 9:32:22 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Destro

No offence but who cares about Ukraine ?


46 posted on 11/28/2004 9:33:49 PM PST by Grand_Capitalism_04 (God helps those who help themselves.)
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To: A. Pole
As I explained from the beginning :

the last thing Yuschenko & Co. want are elections again


47 posted on 11/28/2004 9:34:35 PM PST by Truth666 (http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Proof+that+at+least+one+of+two%22)
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To: Grand_Capitalism_04

ukraine is the biggest country with all its borders inside europe. 50 million people, and has been fighting for freedom for a very long time. its a battle between the west and russia for control. so, actually there are many who care about Ukraine.


48 posted on 11/28/2004 9:39:25 PM PST by KOZ. (Reducing liberalism from a threat to a mere nuisance. Just like prostitution.)
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To: PhilDragoo

My thanks to you, Phil.


49 posted on 11/28/2004 9:40:05 PM PST by Siobhan (Where is there justice in the gate...)
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To: Destro
if you don't follow the constitution even to resolve something that your sie thinks wrong then you have mob rule.

true, but if you have mob rule in the fraud of an election itself, you shouldnt be surprised that there is mob rule to in resolving the problem.

50 posted on 11/28/2004 9:41:15 PM PST by KOZ. (Reducing liberalism from a threat to a mere nuisance. Just like prostitution.)
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To: Truth666

yushchenko is supporting another election. IMHO, seems like its the only way to resolve the problems.


51 posted on 11/28/2004 9:43:13 PM PST by KOZ. (Reducing liberalism from a threat to a mere nuisance. Just like prostitution.)
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To: Grand_Capitalism_04

"Who cares about Ukraine?"
... looks around ... oh the hundreads of thousands of angry protestors on the streets in Kiev, the capital of a former nation which had stockpiles of Soviet-era WMDs, the ones that might take a ride on a camel and join us next Thanksgiving. So again, who cares about Ukraine? You and I both better. Plus, the people are nice.


52 posted on 11/28/2004 9:46:40 PM PST by edmond246 (*With that much B.S. you've gotta flush both the Johns*)
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To: A. Pole

53 posted on 11/28/2004 9:48:32 PM PST by Rain-maker
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To: KOZ.

"The Ukrainian opposition gave President Leonid Kuchma an ultimatum on Sunday, warning that it would block his movements unless he fired Prime Minister Viktor Yanukovich and fulfilled other demands within 24 hours.

Yulia Tymoshenko, a top ally of Viktor Yushchenko, the challenger in the presidential election that officials say Yanukovich won, said that the opposition would give Kuchma until Monday evening to fire Yanukovich. "

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Read the above carefully. Does this sound to you, as a legal demand, asking for new elections, or does it sound like blackmail and mob rule?


54 posted on 11/28/2004 10:21:20 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: KOZ.
Do you think that the people who are whining about "mob rule" would have said the same thing about the Boston Tea Party?

Wonder if they would have found the Solidarity movement distasteful and unseemly.

And Tianenman Square? Why those students were getting quite unruly. Something had to be done! LOL

55 posted on 11/28/2004 10:25:28 PM PST by cicero's_son
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To: FairOpinion

read this very carefully.....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1290097/posts

if you have an election by mob and thug rule. you'll wind up with mob rule in the streets. putin and kuchma reap what they sow.


56 posted on 11/28/2004 10:26:52 PM PST by KOZ. (Reducing liberalism from a threat to a mere nuisance. Just like prostitution.)
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To: cicero's_son
Do you think that the people who are whining about "mob rule" would have said the same thing about the Boston Tea Party?

LOL....only if the boston tea party wasnt accepted by putin.

57 posted on 11/28/2004 10:31:18 PM PST by KOZ. (Reducing liberalism from a threat to a mere nuisance. Just like prostitution.)
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To: A. Pole; Truth666

Yushchenko’s team announces ultimatum demands to Kuchma.
http://www.tass.ru/eng/level2.html?NewsID=1506667&PageNum=0

29.11.2004, 03.10

KIEV, November 29 (Itar-Tass) - Yulia Timoshenko, the closest ally of Ukrainian opposition leader Viktor Yushchenko, announced four ultimatum demands to President Leonid Kuchma in central Kiev on Sunday evening.

Timoshenko said that the Committee for National Salvation had adopted an ultimatum address to President Kuchma urging him to dismiss Prime Minister Viktor Yanukovich for assistance in mass election fraud, submit proposals on a new line-up of the Central Electoral Commission, relieve the administration heads of the Donetsk, Lugansk and Kharkov regions of their duties and order the chief prosecutor and the Security Service chief to initiate criminal proceedings against “separatists” who want to split Ukraine.

Timoshenko emphasized that the current crisis in Ukraine was in the hands of President Leonid Kuchma. She added that the Ukrainian president would not succeed in assuming the role of a peace broker between Yushchenko and Yanukovich because he is holding the clue for settling the crisis in his hands.

Kuchma is given 24 hours to meet these ultimatum demands. “Otherwise, it’s going to be a crime against people and there will be consequences provided for by the Ukrainian criminal code,” Timoshenko went on to say.

“If Kuchma doesn’t meet these demands in 24 hours, we will start blocking his movements in the Ukrainian territory,” Timoshenko stressed.

She also said that people’s deputies, who are members of the National Salvation Committee, would demand holding another extraordinary session at 17:00 Moscow time on Monday. The meeting held on November 27 showed that a new majority had been formed in parliament. It will be offered to pass resolutions expressing non-confidence in Viktor Yanukovich and containing demands for his resignation as well as demands for dismissal of chief prosecutor Gennady Vasilyev and the formation of a popular trust coalition government.

Timoshenko noted that if parliament passed those decisions, they would be legitimate actions.

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Note -- not a word about new elections.


58 posted on 11/28/2004 10:53:32 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FreeReign
It's a power grab by George Soros.

You don't know what you are talking about.

Look at Serbia and Georgia. Ukraine (or central/west Ukriane) will look like tham in one year.

59 posted on 11/29/2004 5:03:38 AM PST by A. Pole ("For the love of money is the root of all evil" -- II Timothy 6:10)
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To: KOZ.
yushchenko is supporting another election

Or rather he wants to be put in power by the "peacuful" demonstrators and EU. Why to risk another elections?

60 posted on 11/29/2004 5:05:49 AM PST by A. Pole ("For the love of money is the root of all evil" -- II Timothy 6:10)
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