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The total budget is $215 million, including a promotional budget of $60 million. I can't think of anyone who has had that large of a budget for one film (LOTR doesn't count). Maybe Cleopatra (adjusted for inflation). Look for the comparisons to that movie, although I suspect Cleopatra is actually a better film that was just too insanely expensive.

I had a list of Oliver Stone's success posted, but the new way of listing my posts keeps me from being able to recall it. Basically, if you give him $50m and a controversial script, you can pretty much count on him making $50-$100m with overseas receipts.

(It seems his US history films -- BOT4th of July, JFK, Nixon -- do far better overseas, which I find interesting.)

Any Given Sunday even made money. But this one will be a flop of legendary proportions (Gigli, Cleopatra...but not Pluto Nash).

Box Office Mojo had it 6th on Friday -- behind Spongebob. It made 3.9 on Monday, 4.3 on Thursday and 5.7 on Friday. I would guess its main competition is the implausible, but apparently likable National Treasure. It's killing, despite negative reviews (Medved happened to like it, though.

But this one will be a flop of legendary proportions (Gigli, Cleopatra...but not Pluto Nash).

Looks that way.

But it will have plenty of company...most recently "Heaven's Gate". I've seen Cleopatra, by the way. Visually it was great - especially for its time - but it was a real stinker.

The horrible thing is that plenty of stinkers make money; "Gunga Din" and "Fort Apache" recently put me to sleep. I've walked out on a number of recent block-busters.