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Putin: Russia Will Develop Oil and Military Cooperation With Venezuela
rian ^ | Nov 26

Posted on 11/26/2004 4:50:22 PM PST by Truth666

"We see bright prospects of cooperation in the oil and gas sector, with Russia and Venezuela possessing huge resources, having rich experience and being the world's leading exporters," Vladimir Putin said after his meeting with the President of Venezuela.

President Hugo Chavez said that Moscow and Caracas had agreed on implementing contracts on joint oil extraction and refining in 2005.

The Venezuelan President also said that some of the joint projects are being implemented, particularly the extraction of bauxite at the Orinoco river for joint aluminum production.

LUKoil and the Venezuelan state company are to start work on mutual oil supplies. The issue concerns Russia's providing oil products to Venezuela and receiving oil supplies to provide for the American market.

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Venezuela will buy a hundred thousand Russian submachine guns, helicopters, anti-tank and air-defense weapons, Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez said.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: energy; geopolitics; latinamerica; lukoil; venezuela
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To: Truth666
I would image Bogota sees this as nothing more than an open act of war on Venezuela's part. Why else does Chavez need such an increase in military equipment. All he has to do in the mean time is plant more stories of Colombian Military/Paramilitary crossing the border into Venezuela and then dress up gangs of his thugs in Colombian military gear and then take out a few border towns to start a new Communist v. Western war in South America again. Didn't we go through this crap a few decades ago?
21 posted on 11/26/2004 6:13:55 PM PST by neb52
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To: F15Eagle

"I was thinking if Venezuelan (and Middle Eastern) oil was cut off it would leave the USA with only Mexico and Canada?"

Yep. But the Eurasian Alliance is working overtime to damage our ties with these countries as well. Do a google search on "China Canada Oil", " and "Russia Stillwater Platinum" and "Russia/China Mexico Oil". What comes up might shock you. Here are a few sample links:

Red China is already closing in on Canada...look at the upper left-hand side of the page the following link takes you to...then look at %-age ownership of the Canadian energy Coorp. Husky.

http://www.hutchison-whampoa.com/eng/energy/husky/husky.htm

They are also moving in on ME sources of oil...

http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20041030-113309-1676r.htm


22 posted on 11/26/2004 6:18:26 PM PST by TapTheSource
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To: trek
"The Venezuelans are going to kill him eventually anyway."
Don't bet on it. If memory serves, there once was a coup against him, and he was arrested for awhile, but the retardees forgot to drill a few holes in him before releasing the body.
23 posted on 11/26/2004 6:38:07 PM PST by GSlob
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To: GSlob
"but the retardees forgot to drill a few holes in him"

I'm betting they get it right this time. The killing has already begun there.

24 posted on 11/26/2004 6:47:37 PM PST by trek
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To: GSlob

"Don't bet on it. If memory serves, there once was a coup against him, and he was arrested for awhile, but the retardees forgot to drill a few holes in him before releasing the body."

I think we need to send in Pinochet to advise the Venezuelan opposition on how to overthrow Communists.


25 posted on 11/26/2004 6:55:23 PM PST by TapTheSource
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To: TapTheSource

Regrettably, Gen. Pinochet's health has somewhat declined, and even to such an extent that his advising on such meriting and useful matters might be unfeasible. But the recipe is already well known, even without him.


26 posted on 11/26/2004 7:00:09 PM PST by GSlob
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To: TapTheSource

Blatant violation of Monroe Doctrine...the bombing begins in five minutes!


27 posted on 11/26/2004 7:03:47 PM PST by montag813
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To: GSlob

"Regrettably, Gen. Pinochet's health has somewhat declined, and even to such an extent that his advising on such meriting and useful matters might be unfeasible. But the recipe is already well known, even without him."

I was half-joking. While Pinochet deserves much credit for stopping the Communist takeover of Chile, not even he finished the job completely, as evidenced by the fact that the Communists have regrouped and are now persecuting him in courts of law. I can imagine what's going through their COLLECTIVE minds..."Even if we fail to get Pinochet locked up, we can still chip away at his fragile health."


28 posted on 11/26/2004 7:08:13 PM PST by TapTheSource
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To: montag813

"Blatant violation of Monroe Doctrine...the bombing begins in five minutes!"

I wish!...While were at it, let's cut off all aid and trade with Communist China. After all, we are the engine that drives their anti-American ambitions.


29 posted on 11/26/2004 7:10:12 PM PST by TapTheSource
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To: TapTheSource
With encouragement from Castro Venezuela is going more communistic and trying to bring along Central and South America and Mexico, too.

If you remember a few weeks ago when Chavez traveled to Russia to meet with Putin he stated that the price of oil should be $100 a barrel.

Last week we read that Mexico is making friends with Iran.

My gut tells me we are in for a very bumpy ride.

30 posted on 11/26/2004 7:15:57 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Arizona Carolyn

"If you remember a few weeks ago when Chavez traveled to Russia to meet with Putin he stated that the price of oil should be $100 a barrel."

Wow...I hadn't heard that (no surprising though). Do you have a link on that? And yes, we are in for a very bumpy ride. It's too bad, because things didn't have to turn out this way.


31 posted on 11/26/2004 7:26:45 PM PST by TapTheSource
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To: Truth666

Venezula has promised not to sell oil to the US anymore, but to China. Does China know that Russia wants to muscle in on its oil contracts?

Also, whatever happened to the Roosevelt corollary of the Monroe doctrine? Why is Bush allowing Russia and China to fight over Venezuelan resources?


32 posted on 11/26/2004 7:41:12 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer

"Also, whatever happened to the Roosevelt corollary of the Monroe doctrine? Why is Bush allowing Russia and China to fight over Venezuelan resources?"

Red China definately wants Venezuela's resources, but both Russia and Red China are just as interested in denying the US Venezuelan oil.


33 posted on 11/26/2004 8:03:00 PM PST by TapTheSource
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To: TapTheSource
This is the link -- I recommend everyone read it... and all other links under "oil," "Chavez," and even "Putin" They are trying to put the hurt on our economy and I say we start re-opening our own wells and start up Anwar ASAP. That should be step one to thumbing our nose at our "friends" who are not really friends and bringing all our chickens back home to roost... see how long they all prosper and need oil if we are not fueling their ecomomies for them.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1247652/posts

General Chavez's idea to create an inter-American oil company to export refine products rather than crude, is also popular in Latin America. In the Venezuelan leader's opinion, over $100 per barrel should be the fair price for oil.

34 posted on 11/26/2004 8:04:41 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: TapTheSource

--- Putin and his KGB strategists are attempting to destroy OPEC just like they are trying to split the US away from its friends and allies.



Except just the one.

I'll give you three guesses ...


35 posted on 11/26/2004 8:23:24 PM PST by Askel5 († Cooperatio voluntaria ad suicidium est legi morali contraria. †)
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To: Askel5

"Except just the one...I'll give you three guesses..."

OK askel, I'll bite. Which US ally is Putin/KGB not trying to split away from the US?


36 posted on 11/26/2004 8:29:50 PM PST by TapTheSource
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To: F15Eagle; MeekOneGOP; PhilDragoo; devolve; Smartass; Boazo; Grampa Dave; B4Ranch; TexasCowboy
"I was thinking if Venezuelan (and Middle Eastern) oil was cut off it would leave the USA with only Mexico and Canada?"

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This (Russia exploring an oil venture with Venezuela) is *yet another* perfect reason why we should be developing our *own* oil reserves in Alaska at breakneck speed.

Russia has plenty of oil, and they know if they can come in the 'back door' of South American oil before we do they will have an advantage over us.

However, I've read studies there is enough shale oil in Canada to last both Canada and the United States over 500 years once it finally begins being harvested.

Also, our pumping technology has improved vastly over the past 20 years to the extent that many oil fields now capped and abandoned can yield as much or more than they did in their prime.

Oil is it. And we use more than any other nation on earth - by far. Each election cycle, you always hear the presidential candidates talking about how they are going to have the gubmint develop "HYDRO-POWERED" automobiles that will end our dependency on foreign energy and oil.

And every election cycle we see the same thing: Big Promises and Bigger Foreign Oil Dependency.

37 posted on 11/26/2004 8:49:12 PM PST by Happy2BMe (It's not quite time to rest - John Kerry is still out there (and so is Hillary))
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To: TapTheSource

That is also why the $ is no longer in favor. There is a move to make the EURO the world replacement. With the $ headed to 1.35-40 Euro and 2$ a pound yhis will in the long run starve the european economies and thus the US economy will go in a down spin with Russia holding 75% of it's reserves in EURO's. The US if it doesn't wake up soon could end up in a situation like the USSR was in the late 80's before the fall. And never say it can't happen!!!


38 posted on 11/26/2004 8:57:03 PM PST by Whataday
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To: Truth666
We mess around in thier back yard (Ukraine) and they mess around in our back yard (Venezuela).

Kinda loses it's impact since Venezuela is already a hopeless Marxist basket case with a dictator in power only because of a rigged election, but hey, it's the symbolism that matters.

Yo. Vladimir. Wanna play? We'll play, but you may not like our rules much. We don't give a flip what you or the UN protests about if you screw with us too openly. We just stomp you.

Wanna threaten us with nukes? Remember MAD? We still got more viable and defensible systems than you got, so it doesn't make sense. Wanna threaten us with selling a nuke to our arch enemies, the Jihadis? Guess who they're more likely to use a handy nuke against? You gots it, bubby.

George W isn't asking you to back down or kowtow to us. He's asking you to wake up and realize where your interests lie. Your interests. It's the only basis for a successful foreign policy.

Get with the program, Vlad. Use the troops that you've snuck into the Ukraine to ensure that the corrupt government doesn't lose it's cool, then openly back the opposition. It's called judo.

Oh, and tell that clown in Venezuela to pound sand. He's really a sick puppy. You don't want to have to be dealing with him for any longer than you have to. It's just not worth it. Seriously.

39 posted on 11/26/2004 8:59:29 PM PST by Phsstpok (often wrong, but never in doubt)
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To: TapTheSource

Damnit man, it's no fun if I supply the answers as part of your "playing along."

(Thanks for all the flags, btw ... trust you and yours had a splendid holiday.)


40 posted on 11/26/2004 9:09:18 PM PST by Askel5 († Cooperatio voluntaria ad suicidium est legi morali contraria. †)
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