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Should The F-22 be cancelled?
26-nov,2004 | Me

Posted on 11/25/2004 6:44:38 PM PST by Haro_546

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To: topcat54

No one's twisting your arm to believe it!

I found the source a believable source. Her Christianity seemed authentic and of significant integrity. I had no reason to doubt her word to me about anything.

But, hey, I can understand that you seem to have a pattern of not trusting others. Many people are like that. Evidently you survive the hazards of that well enough.

I'm still rather confident of my ability to discern trustworthy people.

Besides, her experiences weren't all THAT different from a lot of other people's experiences--just a bit more specialized and unusual as might be the case given her father and his relationship with Einstein etc.

BTW, your assaultive mockery habits are in great form. Keep up the dastardly work. I'm sure Jesus is impressed.


501 posted on 11/26/2004 10:41:51 AM PST by Quix (5having a form of godliness but denying its power. I TIM 3:5)
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To: Haro_546
The airforce buys them in packes to reduce cost per unit.

Ha! I always did love the easy carry handles on the economy 12 pack box.

502 posted on 11/26/2004 10:41:53 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (The way that you wander is the way that you choose. The day that you tarry is the day that you lose.)
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To: topcat54

GREAT INSULT.

Wonderful asssault.

I'm sure Jesus and Jim R are impressed with your keeping the letter and spirit of the law.


503 posted on 11/26/2004 10:44:50 AM PST by Quix (5having a form of godliness but denying its power. I TIM 3:5)
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To: Haro_546

No...


504 posted on 11/26/2004 10:47:12 AM PST by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: Just_de_facts

Thanks for your amazingly uninformed charity.

I'd have thought you'd at least have heard more from your environment.


505 posted on 11/26/2004 10:47:23 AM PST by Quix (5having a form of godliness but denying its power. I TIM 3:5)
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To: Red6

As I recall, some claim the actual R & D and even deployment funding is much, much, much more than that.

But then that gets into some REALLLLLLY strange contentions about funding sources and very strange goings on.

I certainly don't know where the truth lies in all that. I do believe the public has been bilked in a list of ways for a LOT of very black projects for at least the last 50 years--projects which have yet to see much light of public awareness at all.


506 posted on 11/26/2004 10:50:17 AM PST by Quix (5having a form of godliness but denying its power. I TIM 3:5)
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To: Quix
But, hey, I can understand that you seem to have a pattern of not trusting others. Many people are like that. Evidently you survive the hazards of that well enough.

It has something to do with "Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves. Therefore be wise as serpents and harmless as doves."

Or, as others have said, "Don't trust anything you hear and only half of what you see."

507 posted on 11/26/2004 11:02:27 AM PST by topcat54
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To: topcat54

Oh, I think I live within the parameters of that addage well enough.

I just have massive amounts of sifted through data in my background.

I wouldn't want to defend your wisdom in court.

As to the harmless as doves part--I think you have a considerable amount to work on in that department.


508 posted on 11/26/2004 11:09:06 AM PST by Quix (5having a form of godliness but denying its power. I TIM 3:5)
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To: Quix

Wow....


While I know there are projects the government is working on that are still decades away from us knowing anything about them, I still have to say you're full of more BS than anyone on this forum.

ET just decided to bring by his ship to show off to some little girl you know??? ROFL!!!!

I think someone forgot to look the doors at the local nut-house... quix escaped!!!


509 posted on 11/26/2004 11:51:37 AM PST by Andrew LB
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To: Fury

Ping for later read...


510 posted on 11/26/2004 11:53:33 AM PST by Fury
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To: Andrew LB

Thanks for your charitable response.

Your sweetness is showing all over the place.

LOL.


511 posted on 11/26/2004 11:57:35 AM PST by Quix (5having a form of godliness but denying its power. I TIM 3:5)
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To: Quix

You're welcome.

Your posts are just getting a little over the top and borderline on being classified as insane. ;)


Btw... last night i saw a show on the history channel about alien abductions... I think you were on the show. Were you the guy with the beard and glasses trying to hide his identity? lol.


512 posted on 11/26/2004 12:04:55 PM PST by Andrew LB
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To: Haro_546

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513 posted on 11/26/2004 12:06:26 PM PST by investigateworld (( "Bob, I bled from every wound", Sen. J. Kerry to Sen. R. Dole ...Target HQ is in a blue state! ))
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To: mad_as_he$$

On the nose.

Terrorism is not the only threat.

We own the skies and we shall continue to own the skies.


514 posted on 11/26/2004 12:10:15 PM PST by roaddog727 (The marginal propensity to save is 1 minus the marginal propensity to consume.)
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To: Andrew LB

ACTUALLY,

my reality testing is probably at least as good as yours. And, that's something I AM WELL trained in.

But your kind comment is duly noted.

No. Have not been on any History channel programs. There's supposed to be a new one coming up on the 6th Dec at 2000 but I forget what time zone that is.

Otherwise, your personal assault/attack/insult is about average cheekiness on such a topic.

I an understand. When one doesn't have tons and tons of personal associations and data to consider, one has to make emotional broadsides out of one's rigid biases. Makes a kind of sense.


515 posted on 11/26/2004 12:33:00 PM PST by Quix (5having a form of godliness but denying its power. I TIM 3:5)
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To: roaddog727

Certainly owning the skies is a super priority.

However, considering that in some terms, we haven't owned them since at least 1950 . . . it's an interesting issue.

Thankfully, compared to what others of our kind have fielded, we've done pretty well at owning the skies and I'd like to think we'd continue. We have the capacity.

What the will,
will be,
will be interesting.


516 posted on 11/26/2004 12:35:12 PM PST by Quix (5having a form of godliness but denying its power. I TIM 3:5)
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To: Defendingliberty
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517 posted on 11/26/2004 12:39:25 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: Quix

I know plenty of people working for companies like Boeing, Raytheon, etc.

I know of many things that i will not discuss here on this forum.

If you truly did know anything secret... you would not have posted it here like you are so openly doing.


518 posted on 11/26/2004 1:03:53 PM PST by Andrew LB
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To: Haro_546

"usefull sistems"
Useful systems you mean.

And the F-22 is needed to replace the F-15, which is beginning to show it's age.
The F-14 has needed to be replaced for awhile, but no workable design had been forwarded to do so yet.
The F-16 also needs to be replaced.

Basically, all that nice new neato tech can't be installed in the 'tried and true' workhorses.
Wanna know why?
The generators aren't gutsy enough.
And the wiring couldn't handle the load either.
In the end, stripping and refitting an F-15 to use the electronics suite from an F-22 would cost the same as building a brand new aircraft.

Understand?


519 posted on 11/26/2004 1:09:20 PM PST by Darksheare (Love, stay thy hand)
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To: Andrew LB

THE STUFF I'VE POSTED ABOUT

has been largely in the essentially public domain for a long time.

And, from multiple disconnected sources.

The more personal stuff as well, even, has been 95% or more in the public domain. The rest is not that critical an issue as it's too far fetched to most minds or not that easily traceable.

Your assumptions were a bit askew from my reality.


520 posted on 11/26/2004 1:11:05 PM PST by Quix (5having a form of godliness but denying its power. I TIM 3:5)
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