Keivan Rus was Russian - not Ukranian - after the Mongols the Russians moved themselves Northwars to Moscow - cure your lack of history. It's ok you are in good company - most Americans don't know history. As you can see from your post - no state of Ukraine existed - just states within the geographic area of the Ukraine.
Anyone who can READ knows that the Kievan Rus were Russian, and a high schooler with a world history class under his belt knows that the Mongol drive displaced tribes as far east as Spain. Your claims to superior historical knowledge notwithstanding, we aren't on substantially different pages on the facts. Where we differ is the conclusion you draw, which is completely unwarranted. We have no argument that the territory was not a "state of Ukraine," historically, but by that standard there was no France, England, or Germany, or even U.S., and they can't be nations, either! We don't dispute that perhaps the folks there aren't even united enough to BE a nation. But that there was no 'state of Ukraine' united by a common ancestry does not somehow disqualify THIS 'state of Ukraine' from nationhood, which was obliquely your point.
We might even agree on the point I think you were driving to, which is that it might not be a bad idea to Balkanize the Ukraine. But I would prefer instead to keep it united, given the mass of people who might suffer from such a split due to the usually fractious nature of such divisions, and I hope that the country simply aligns more right than Communist left.
The Rus were nordic princes "invited" by the slavic Kievans to rule them.
The Bolshevik animals purged Russia of all that noble blood.
You're confusing the term, Rus with the modern term, Russian. Tsk. Tsk.
From P. Magocsi, "A History of Ukraine" pg. 68
For the longest time, English-language writings did not distiguish the name Rus' from Russia, with the result that in descriptions of the pre-fourteenth century Kievan realm the conceptually distorted formulation Kievan Russia was used.
It was the Kievan metropolitan that moved from Kyiv to first Vladimir then onto populated Moscow not the populace.
And I'm sure you're aware that the empire with the name, Russia, was not to come until centuries later.