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SOROS INTERFERING (In Ukraine) (March 2001)
Ukrainian News via Brama.com ^ | March 2, 2001 | Ukrainian News

Posted on 11/24/2004 9:34:43 PM PST by FairOpinion

KYIV, Mar. 2 (Ukrainian News) - Major international financier George Soros in a letter published by the Financial Times on Friday called on President Leonid Kuchma to step aside pending the outcome of an official investigation into the murder of journalist Georgy Gongadze.

State prosecutors ruled Gongadze’s death a murder this week after DNA tests showed a 99.9 percent probability that a headless body found in the outskirts of Kyiv last November belonged to the journalist.

The letter from Soros is the latest in high-profile appeals that Ukraine clean up its act with respect to democracy, the rule of law and press freedom.

U.S. President George W. Bush on Friday also sent a sharply-worded verbal message to Ukraine, delivered by United States ambassador to Ukraine Carlos Pasqual.

In the message, the U.S. warns Ukraine that the financial aid that the U.S. has been doling out to the economically-strained ex-Soviet state since it gained independence was at risk due to repressive measures by Ukrainian authorities against democratic processes.

In his letter, entitled "Step Aside, Mr. Kuchma," Soros calls on Kuchma to hand over his duties to Prime Minister Viktor Yushchenko while the investigation into Gongadze’s murder goes forward.

"If Mr. Kuchma cares about Ukraine's survival as an independent democratic state, he must take responsibility for his actions and hand over his duties to the Prime Minister ... pending the results of the investigation," Soros said in the letter.

According to Soros, an objective investigation into Gongadze’s murder and other crimes that Kuchma has been accused of was not realistic unless Kuchma stepped aside and allowed the investigation to go forward.

Audio recordings made secretly in Kuchma’s office appear to implicate the president in engineering Gongadze’s disappearance, in addition to other alleged criminal acts.

Soros also said that Kuchma's recent letter to the Financial Times showed that Kuchma "takes any opportunity to lash out at his opponents."

"If Mr. Kuchma remains recalcitrant, continues to harass political opponents and the media and drags his feet on the investigation, he risks relegating Ukraine to the same fate as neighboring Belarus..." Soros said.

In his letter Soros recalled his last meeting with Kuchma. Soros said he was "taken aback by the president's scathing, virulent remarks about Viktor Yushchenko, Ukraine's prime minister, and Yulia Tymoshenko, the former deputy prime minister."

"And later I found myself in the uncomfortable position of urging Mr. Yushchenko to accommodate the president," Soros wrote.

George Soros heads the Open Society Institute, which has held several philanthropic programs in Ukraine in the past few years.

Soros also pointed out in the letter that he had been deeply involved in Ukraine by trying to help it make the transition from a closed to an open society by creating the Ukrainian Renaissance Foundation and giving Ukraine more than $100 million in support.

Read the full text of Soros’s letter published by the Financial Times at http://navigation.helper.realnames.com/framer/1/1/default.asp?realname=Financial+Times&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eft%2Ecom&frameid=1&providerid=1&uid=30013336


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: conspiracy; soros; ukraine
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To: FairOpinion
The Bush Administration is supporting fair democratic elections in the Ukraine. Bush sent Lugar as an envoy to Ukraine and Lugar has stated that "It is now apparent that a concerted and forceful program of election-day fraud and abuse was enacted with either the leadership or cooperation of governmental authorities."

Now, if that isn't support for Yuschenko, I don't know what is.

41 posted on 11/24/2004 10:12:55 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
Well, then you'd be wrong. Putin is dangerous, Soros is a pain in the ass.

These people have no idea about the dangers of Putin. All they've seen in the past few years is Soros' shenanigans.

Thus the post that you read.

42 posted on 11/24/2004 10:13:20 PM PST by FreeReign (Truth is Freedom.)
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To: jwalsh07
Putin is dangerous, Soros is a pain in the ass.

Soros is dangerous, too (ask Indonesia). He just doesn't have nukes and a USSR complex the size of Siberia.

43 posted on 11/24/2004 10:14:12 PM PST by cicero's_son
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To: cicero's_son
If my President says this is the way to go then I trust him.
However Don't underestimate the devil.
He works in the shadows.
If Yushchenko is for sale then I guess the poor American
taxpayer is going to have to outbid Soros.
For in the end both Putin and Soros are of great threat
to the U.S.
44 posted on 11/24/2004 10:14:40 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: PhillyGal

hmm well Yuschenko is the light alright one that puts you on path to hell.

His great reform platform is this: he will take all of the industrial plants in south east ukraine nationalize them ripping off foreign and domestic investors and then re-privataze with the right people behind them to fund his ideals. Sort of nationalization for the greater good of the society which never quiet works out that way...


45 posted on 11/24/2004 10:16:04 PM PST by eluminate
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To: jwalsh07
Well, let me help you out a bit. Which one commands a huge nuclear arsenal coupled with a very large military buttressed by the KGB?

Yeah, yeah, Putin wants to bring the Soviet Union back, but Soros is a mysterious billionaire, with more than a passing interest in ... global domination.

I'm getting shaken (not stirred) thinking about it.

46 posted on 11/24/2004 10:16:16 PM PST by Steel Wolf ( Operation North Korean Freedom, anyone?)
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To: cicero's_son

Soros is a money changer, there is no equivalence to the damage that Soros can and has done as compared to the damge that Putin can, and evidently, very well may do.


47 posted on 11/24/2004 10:16:20 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07

This is support for fair elections, NOT for the losing candidate necessarily.

I read in another article that the accusations of fraud are based on EXIT polls conducted by US and other countries,and we all know how reliable they are.


48 posted on 11/24/2004 10:16:21 PM PST by FairOpinion (Happy Thanksgiving!)
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To: Steel Wolf

A billion dollars is rounding error to the armed forces of America and Russia. Don't elevate that money changing scumbag to heights he will never obtain.


49 posted on 11/24/2004 10:18:00 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Rome2000
A year from now Bush could be saying this about Yush and the Ukraine;

Hey Soros thanks for the revolution.

Soros (like the EU) is an overblown pipsqueak. Putin is a dangerous tyrant.

50 posted on 11/24/2004 10:19:07 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: jwalsh07

The unfolding developments in the Ukraine are simply marvelous, Poland and Serbia deja vu. The impulse towards freedom and a civil society is truly infectious without the gun of the tyrant ready to use it. I hope Iraqis catch the wind, and take it to heart. That is my wish, a wish upon a star, on this Thanksgiving Eve. All the best.


51 posted on 11/24/2004 10:19:45 PM PST by Torie
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To: DaveTesla

Well put.


52 posted on 11/24/2004 10:22:55 PM PST by cicero's_son
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To: jwalsh07
Soros just wiped out the Birth rate in the Ukraine.
Thanks to Mr. Soros the Ukrain has the one of the lowest
birth rates and the highest abortion rate in the world.

Thanks to Mr. Soros the Aids rate is exploding.
And like Nikita Kruschev said He never fired a shot.
I am not wrong.
You don't understand.
53 posted on 11/24/2004 10:23:19 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: FairOpinion
No comparison actually. Exit polling in Eastern Europe is evidently extremely accurate accroding to Dick Morris and others who have spent time in politics over there. I know, I don't like the toe sucker either but if there is one thing he knows it is polling.

Couple that with the fact that Russia had to send troops because, apparently, the Ukrainian police and armed forces also believe that the Russian puppett stole the election and will not act against civilians.

Based on ethnic population density and reports of government fraud, I'd have to lean toward the exit polls being right. Evvidently, Putin is attempting a coup.

54 posted on 11/24/2004 10:23:49 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Torie

Happy Thanksgiving to you my friend and Godspeed to all the freedom lovers willing to face the tanks and the islamofascists.


55 posted on 11/24/2004 10:25:41 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: cicero's_son; Rome2000; FairOpinion
Thank you all for your information and opinions(I think).

My daughter spent three weeks this summer in Ukraine on a missions trip. This past week we have received many emails from people living there, asking for prayers specifically in support of Yushchenko.
Many felt very strongly that if he lost, the doors open to teaching the Bible would be closed. So, this is why I supported and continue to support Yushchenko.

My confusion was why is Soros involved with this. You have all explained it somewhat and I guess as cier's son said, the lesser of two evils.
56 posted on 11/24/2004 10:27:34 PM PST by jan in Colorado (Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6)
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To: DaveTesla

America has the highest abortion rate in the world and Soros had nothing to do with it. Blaming Soros for women killing their unborn is not a conservative position BTW. Indivdual responsibility, remember that?


57 posted on 11/24/2004 10:27:35 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: jan in Colorado
Thanks for listening and retaining an open mind.

I'm glad your daughter was able to do her work in the Ukraine. That is of course where the true battle is always fought--in the individual human heart.

58 posted on 11/24/2004 10:29:32 PM PST by cicero's_son
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To: jwalsh07
America has the highest abortion rate in the world

? I thought it was in Eastern Europe.

59 posted on 11/24/2004 10:31:07 PM PST by Torie
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To: Steel Wolf
Follow the Link:
George Soros, Postmodern Villain
According to a recent U.N. report, five European countries
had more abortions than live births in 2000-the Russian
Federation, Bulgaria, Belarus, Rumania, and Ukraine.
Over the past five years, the Soros network has given a
successful start to previously nonexistent "gay" activism
in almost all of its areas of operation. The campaign
for "LGBT [lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender] Rights" is
directed from Budapest....
60 posted on 11/24/2004 10:32:23 PM PST by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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