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BREAKING: Powell: U.S. 'Cannot Accept Result' of Ukraine Election
Fox News ^ | November 24, 2004

Posted on 11/24/2004 10:09:53 AM PST by West Coast Conservative

Powell: U.S. 'Cannot Accept Result' of Ukraine Election

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia
KEYWORDS: coldwar2; powell; ukraine
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To: tfecw
This wasn't really a big shocker. Those who cared to see it, saw it comming

Exactly.

161 posted on 11/24/2004 11:35:01 AM PST by MarMema
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To: MarMema

Bush supports Yuschenko, not Putin's child rapist. Are you saying Bush should support Putin's child rapist instead?


162 posted on 11/24/2004 11:35:23 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: MarMema; SunkenCiv

Thanks, MM for that article. It was most enlightening.

I highly recommend it to others, who want to understand more about the background:

WASHINGTON TURNING SCREWS ON UKRAINE AHEAD OF ELECTION

http://www.jamestown.org/publications_details.php?volume_id=401&issue_id=2947&article_id=236679

Sound to me, that more than anything else, the Democrats were in there trying to cause trouble and a rift between Ukraine and the US, because the Ukraine government has been supporting the Iraq war.

Just remember how Jimmy Carter, under the pretext of worrying about human rights, undermined our best friend in the Middle East, the Shah of Iran, fueled the radical Islam revolution and allowed the Ayatollah Khomeini to take over Iran, and giver rise to the resurgence of radical Islam, and turn a country from a friend of the US, to a bitter enemy, and the human rights didn't get any better either.


163 posted on 11/24/2004 11:35:52 AM PST by FairOpinion (Thank you Swifties, POWs & Vets. We couldn't have done it without you.)
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To: MikeinIraq
Nor should we....but at the same time, we should let the Ukrainians figure it out....

Agree. We are not the worlds cop.

164 posted on 11/24/2004 11:37:11 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: cornelis
There is a difference between "interest" and "intervention." It certainly is in our interest. We should know who are friends and who are enemies.

Well said and I agree. However, in that part of the world it is always a tall order to determine this. We have friends for the moment.
165 posted on 11/24/2004 11:37:25 AM PST by gipper81
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To: Freebird Forever

>So the US stands behind the election of someone who wants to abandon support for the Coalition in Iraq?

>Sounds like a lose lose situation.

Are you ready to trade freedom for 50,000,000 for 1600 troops in iraq from dictator-president Kuchma?

I don't think so..

You know Hitler was against muslim terrorists but somehow we didn't think it was ok to side with him.. as in this situation with Putin.


166 posted on 11/24/2004 11:38:21 AM PST by b2stealth
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To: FairOpinion
Pro-West as in the EU West. You know all the internationists who like the islamic immigration into Europe and hate Israel. Soros is vulgar anti-Christian just like his friends in the EU.

Of course Putin's man is in his little red pocket.

One way or the other. the people of the Ukraine, lose.

167 posted on 11/24/2004 11:38:44 AM PST by Lion in Winter (I ain't no pussy cat... don't mess with me... ya hear! GRRRRRRrrr)
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To: FairOpinion

Um, so now its the democrats fault? Is this a joke? Putin is trying to get his grubby hands on Ukraine again, and you blame a party out of power. Brilliant.


168 posted on 11/24/2004 11:38:50 AM PST by notigar
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To: jb6

I think these things through. I've lived and worked in Moscow, Kiev, that hideous Soviet-throwback wasteland Minsk, and Brussels - my least favorite city in the world.

Since I reject your premise that the EU is even in need of 'hemming in' anytime soon, there's no real point in answering your question. The best way to hem Europe in these days is to not try to get them to do anything, and they'll just cloister themselves in their little fantasy world for as long as they can maintain the delusion.

Aside from that, playing them one against the other is all we need to keep them on the sidelines, which is why that's exactly what we do anytime there's a serious clash of interests. Ukraine adding weight to Poland, Hungary, the Czech Republic and so on would be the most effective check on the Franco-German core than anything else.


169 posted on 11/24/2004 11:39:30 AM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: tfecw

Office of the Press Secretary (Crawford, Texas)

For Immediate Release November 23, 2004

Crawford Middle School Crawford, Texas

1:45 P.M. CST

MS. BUCHAN: "The United States is deeply disturbed by extensive and credible indications of fraud committed in the Ukranian presidential election. We strongly support efforts to review the conduct of the election and urge Ukranian authorities not to certify results until investigations of organized fraud are resolved. We call on the government of Ukraine to respect the will of the Ukranian people and we urge all Ukrainians to resolve the situation through peaceful means. The government bears a special responsibility not to use or incite violence, and to allow free media to report accurately on the situation without intimidation or coercion. The United States stands with the Ukranian people in this difficult time."


170 posted on 11/24/2004 11:40:22 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: Joe Hadenuf

Now while I dont think saying Putin is equivalent to Hitler or Stalin is exactly fair, we really should not allow our feeling over the Iraq war and the Ukraine's 1600 troops undermine our long standing support for free elections, which these demonstrably were not.


171 posted on 11/24/2004 11:40:58 AM PST by MikefromOhio (47 days until I can leave Iraq for good....)
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To: OXENinFLA

Maybe we should cut these guys some slack. After all, they just figured out that an election should have more than one candidate.


172 posted on 11/24/2004 11:41:14 AM PST by Spok
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To: West Coast Conservative

Whoa.


173 posted on 11/24/2004 11:41:23 AM PST by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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To: notigar

Funny how the Putin groupies and refusing to acknowledge that our President is supporting Yuschenko, not Putin's child rapist.


174 posted on 11/24/2004 11:41:57 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: bayourod

LOL!!


175 posted on 11/24/2004 11:43:06 AM PST by Lion in Winter (I ain't no pussy cat... don't mess with me... ya hear! GRRRRRRrrr)
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To: FairOpinion
I didn't know that. I knew Putin is supporting Yanukovich, but I didn't know Soros is supporting Yushchenko. I thought Yushchenko is pro-West, so why would Soros support him?

Soros supports Yushchenko so that Putin wins no matter what. These pro-West labels are for western median consumption. They typically mean nothing at all when you get down to the realpolitik.
176 posted on 11/24/2004 11:43:12 AM PST by gipper81
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To: notigar

YOu obviously didn't read the article.

Go back and read it first.


http://www.jamestown.org/publications_details.php?volume_id=401&issue_id=2947&article_id=236679

The point is that the current Ukraine government has been supportive of our efforts in Iraq, which is a major test of their support of the US. That's the same government that Putin has been supporting. The Dems have been running over there, encouraging the opposition.


177 posted on 11/24/2004 11:44:10 AM PST by FairOpinion (Thank you Swifties, POWs & Vets. We couldn't have done it without you.)
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To: gipper81

"These pro-West labels are for western median consumption. They typically mean nothing at all when you get down to the realpolitik."

Thanks. I am starting to figure it out.


178 posted on 11/24/2004 11:44:51 AM PST by FairOpinion (Thank you Swifties, POWs & Vets. We couldn't have done it without you.)
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To: FairOpinion

Bush supports Yuschenko, not Putin's child rapist. Why is that?


179 posted on 11/24/2004 11:45:21 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

Your posts are filled with labels and name-calling. They strike me as immature in nature, and not worthy of more discussion.


180 posted on 11/24/2004 11:46:07 AM PST by MarMema
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